Sally Jenkins Eviscerates Goodell in Washington Post

Se7eN said:

Different browser worked but I don't really relish the idea of having to dust off internet explorer every time I want to read a washington post article ugh. The vertical scroll bar will literally appear upon the initial load of the page and then disappear for me on chrome, so weird.

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I had no problem with it on chrome.

GrogansArmy said:

While I love Sally Jenkins and wanna marry her, I actually disagree with this tiny excerpt from her:



IMO Brady lost in the court of public opinion. Pretty much 99% of non-pats fans think he's a cheater.

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I think because Brady faught this as long as he did we now have court records, Amicus briefs and appeal transcripts that all indicate this was a witch hunt. Anyone educated enough to want to look will see just that.

So imagine Roger is gone after 2020 and ESPN decides to do a 30/30 about deflategate. He won't be around any longer and they may expose how dumb this whole thing was.

No doubt it’s easier for Brady to accept because by now he knows that in practical terms and the court of public opinion, he won.

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I'd like to know what Sally is smoking on...

Tony2046 said:

I think because Brady faught this as long as he did we now have court records, Amicus briefs and appeal transcripts that all indicate this was a witch hunt. Anyone educated enough to want to look will see just that.

So imagine Roger is gone after 2020 and ESPN decides to do a 30/30 about deflategate. He won't be around any longer and they may expose how dumb this whole thing was.

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That would be a totally ESPN move. They generate the controversy, promote the controversy, encourage the controversy and then, 10 years later, talk about how stupid the whole controversy was and how unfair the media was.

GrogansArmy said:

While I love Sally Jenkins and wanna marry her, I actually disagree with this tiny excerpt from her:



IMO Brady lost in the court of public opinion. Pretty much 99% of non-pats fans think he's a cheater.

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I think you'd be surprised.

When I look at social media nowadays, the opinion appears to be much more divided. I think people are just tired of hearing about the whole thing.

And also, don't just use Jets as an example to this. Of course they'll all say Brady's a cheater.

NJPatsfan26 said:

another gem from her. I hope she writes a book about all of this and really nails shut all of the questions and doubts regarding how incompetent Roger Goodell really is.

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I think the book, if she writes one, would just fall on deaf ears. In addition to the majority of people being idiotically programmed to believing Brady's guilt, We are all universally sick to death of this stupid story.

Eviscerate is pretty strong language

I must agree. What was once a fun game, Goodell has made into an insufferable loop of power grabs, deception and the talking heads discussing long term NFL business strategy. All of it, more apt for legal journals and the WSJ than the once enjoyable sports pages. Oh yeah, with dumbass Goodell always in the forefront, kinda like a real life Vince McMahon, but without the fun.

At least for me it came with a silver lining. It forced me to step back and re-evaluate the focus of my passion. And, my new take on all things NFL off-field, and anti-Patriot, is "Hey it's just a game. You're really taking things too seriously bro." Has worked wonders for my state of mind. This last SB win also helped in that regard Pressure off, if you know what I mean. So I've just decided to roll with it, ignore the noise, enjoy the game, and hopefully see the best HC+QB tandem ever seen or will be seen, close out masterful careers with a few more trophies.

ausbacker said:

Whilst I agree with Sally Jenkins and have done so all along (outside of the court of public opinion comment), what's the point? The owners, being money grubbing bastards, haven't fired his candy ass yet. Goodell is a ****ty commissioner? Yeah, we know that.

The guy is being paid an exorbitant amount to be an incompetent fool sucking the life out of NFL enjoyment. Who suffers? Not Goodell, not the owners, but the Patriots, the Saints, the Dolphins and their fans (not so much Miami). What's done? Nothing.

If Smith and the NFLPA have any ****ing balls, demanding Goodell's resignation will be the first tabled item in CBA negotiations.

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pdangle said:

I must agree. What was once a fun game, Goodell has made into an insufferable loop of power grabs, deception and the talking heads discussing long term NFL business strategy. All of it, more apt for legal journals and the WSJ than the once enjoyable sports pages. Oh yeah, with dumbass Goodell always in the forefront, kinda like a real life Vince McMahon, but without the fun.

At least for me it came with a silver lining. It forced me to step back and re-evaluate the focus of my passion. And, my new take on all things NFL off-field, and anti-Patriot, is "Hey it's just a game. You're really taking things too seriously bro." Has worked wonders for my state of mind. This last SB win also helped in that regard Pressure off, if you know what I mean. So I've just decided to roll with it, ignore the noise, enjoy the game, and hopefully see the best HC+QB tandem ever seen or will be seen, close out masterful careers with a few more trophies.

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Perhaps saddest of all, I've been actively recruiting new Patsfans down under for the best part of 20+ years. Recent converts are experiencing the joy I once had where now it just feels like meh, watch the Pats obliterate teams, go on a Super Bowl run = whatever. As a fan, that sucks before Goodell has sucked the life out of me enjoying something the NFL is never likely to see again.

Jackson 2 said:

That's a great question. I just forwarded Sally's column to CHB.

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Just read CHB's response to me: "Funny. She lost. Won't give it up. Like Japanese warriors in Phillipines after WW2 was over." I just wrote back, "That's an interesting analogy. I offer that because I've often used it to describe old football fans in this area who continue to insist that 'NE is Giant country.' And yes, Sally lost - but it doesn't mean she's not correct."

robertweathers said:

Can someone explain to me how CHB is getting into Cooperstown?

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My guess is that he'll take the Mass Pike West to Route 28 South.

Koma said:

I don't get that either, but this might make things a little more bearable (from Wikipedia about the Spink award):

"Winners are not considered to be members of the Hall. They are not "inducted" or "enshrined", but are permanently recognized in an exhibit at the Hall's library."

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Must be in the A-hole wing....

Jackson 2 said:

Just read CHB's response to me: "Funny. She lost. Won't give it up. Like Japanese warriors in Phillipines after WW2 was over." I just wrote back, "That's an interesting analogy. I offer that because I've often used it to describe old football fans in this area who continue to insist that 'NE is Giant country.' And yes, Sally lost - but it doesn't mean she's not correct."

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His response was very defensive.

I appreciate Sally Jenkins writing ability even more than her stance here. In less than 1,000 words she's nailed this issue, without having to go into the science or legal issues at all.

Even though I fondly remember the glory days of Boston sports writing, when the Sunday Globe Sports section was something to truly look forward to, I have to admit that she writes better than anyone in Boston sports media history. Yes, the old boys (Ryan, Gammons, et al) had great connections and provided timely info, but they didn't write this well. Bravo Sally. Raising a glass to your excellence.

GrogansArmy said:

While I love Sally Jenkins and wanna marry her, I actually disagree with this tiny excerpt from her:



IMO Brady lost in the court of public opinion. Pretty much 99% of non-pats fans think he's a cheater.

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What she's doing there is similar to what ESPN is doing with publishing a timeline of deflategate using Mort's incorrect initial report as if it were true. She's trying to set the conventional wisdom for this going forward.

She's got a credible forum in the Washington Post, so if she writes that people think Brady did nothing wrong, even if it's not true right now, it helps to make that the story in the future.

Jackson 2 said:

Because your last name is Goodell?

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Then you'd have whiteout on the screen..................when you try to make a correction....

GrogansArmy said:

It takes 24 owners to fire the commish.. unfortunately it seems only 1 wants him fired. The other 31 are just ecstatic about how they put the evil cheating Patriots in their place.

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Which one is that, 'cause there's no indication that it's Kraft?

Se7eN said:

Different browser worked but I don't really relish the idea of having to dust off internet explorer every time I want to read a washington post article ugh. The vertical scroll bar will literally appear upon the initial load of the page and then disappear for me on chrome, so weird.

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try this
Reset Chrome settings to default - Chrome Help

For "Mr. Robot" fans...substitute the villain Evil Corp with the NFL and the show would seamlessly move forward

betterthanthealternative said:

I appreciate Sally Jenkins writing ability even more than her stance here. In less than 1,000 words she's nailed this issue, without having to go into the science or legal issues at all.

Even though I fondly remember the glory days of Boston sports writing, when the Sunday Globe Sports section was something to truly look forward to, I have to admit that she writes better than anyone in Boston sports media history. Yes, the old boys (Ryan, Gammons, et al) had great connections and provided timely info, but they didn't write this well. Bravo Sally. Raising a glass to your excellence.

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I dunna know...Montville is pretty good.