Arian Foster signs with Dolphins

IllegalContact · Jul 19, 2016

dude sucks

for a bit, I thought he might be awesome.....but he sucks

PatsBoy12 · Jul 19, 2016

signbabybrady said:
I feel like I am the only one who like our duo of Lewis and Blount.

Lewis was so dynamic last year. Such a perfect fit to this offense. And Blount is a good compliment to Lewis'style and a good second half closer.

There are obvious injury concerns but I think White and Donald Brown should offer some depth.

If we lose them both again we are probably screwed but I think that is true of most positions on most teams. Losing your top two guys anywhere will be a tough thing to overcome.

We also have Foster who could beat out White.

As much work as Bolden puts in on STs I hope Brown and White/Foster beat him out because we need the depth more at RB and hopefully the STs can be found elsewhere.

Hey SignBrady. I wish I could agree with you, but I can't on this one. I don't have as much faith in Blount as you seem to. He played well only against sorry competition last season and even the season before. It's no surprise some of his best games were against the soft as pie Colts. Hell, Jonas Gray ran for 201 against them and he can't even find a job in the NFL now. I don't hate Blount and would rather have him at this point than not, but I'd prefer someone better ideally.

Lewis is coming of the ACL and should be decent, but we've seen enough examples now that a player coming off of this injury isn't really all the way back until season 2. So while I think Lewis will be a spark, I am tempering enthusiasm. I do think Brown can make the team, but we'll see. I love Lewis, but an underrated aspect that made Faulk and Woody so valuable was durability. They played more than not. Lewis has not yet shown that at the NFL level.

Where I really disagree with you is when you talk about Bolden. He's a stud on ST's. He battled injury last year, so he was just okay. But in 2014, his ST's play swung games...multiple. But if you look at just the SD game from that season, as one example, I'd say we won that game because of the momentum swing from the blocked punt, in which he also injured their pro bowl punter and, while I'm obviously never rooting for injuries, that one was HUGE. Prior, NE couldn't get anything going offensively. Brady was sub par the majority of that game. That INT before half was pathetic. But I slightly digress. BB values ST's as much as the other phases of the game so, provided Bolden is fully healthy and regains form in TC, he should make the team easily. We can likely get decent ST's play from other players, but will they be game changers? Bolden has made game-changing plays.

Side note: I read that Butler played 29 percent of ST's plays last season. That was interesting to me, but it is something that I hoe is not repeated. We were extremely lucky that he and Ryan stayed healthy all season long, much like Collins and High in 2014, as we heavily relied in just them in the 4-2-5 that season (and last).

PatsBoy12 · Jul 19, 2016

363839 said:
Didn't this guy used to be a hall of famer? I mean he used to be really good only 2 years ago. What happened to him?

He was never a HOFer.

Kontradiction · Jul 19, 2016

Ross12 said:
Reid is hoarding talented RBs in KC. I hope BB can get Reid to do him a solid sometime soon.

I highly doubt it since there is a big chance KC and NE will meet at some point in the playoffs. I'm still really confused as to why a RB was not drafted. The draft was deep with them. Now we have to hope that both Blount or Lewis can stay healthy and contribute and/or there is something worthwhile on the scrap heap.

signbabybrady · Jul 19, 2016

PatsBoy12 said:
Hey SignBrady. I wish I could agree with you, but I can't on this one. I don't have as much faith in Blount as you seem to. He played well only against sorry competition last season and even the season before. No surprise some if his best games were against the soft as pie Colts. Hell, Jonas Gray ran for 201 against them and he can't even find a job in the NFL now. I don't hate Blount and would rather have him at this point than not, but I'd prefer someone better ideally.

Lewis is coming of the ACL and should be decent, but we've seen enough examples now that a player coming off of this injury isn't really all the way back until season 2. So while I think Lewis will be a spark, I am tempering enthusiasm. I do think Brown can make the team, but we'll see. I love that guy, but an underrated aspect that made Faulk and Woody so valuable was durability. They played more than not. Lewis has not yet shown that at the NFL level.

Where I really disagree with you is when you talk about Bolden. He's a stud in ST's. He battled injury last year, so he was just okay. But in 2014, his ST's play swung games...multiple. But if you look at just the SD game from that season, as one example, I'd say we won that game because of the momentum swing from the blocked punt, in which he also injured their pro bowl punter and, while I'm obviously never rooting for injuries, that one was HUGE. Prior, NE couldn't get anything going offensively. Brady was sub par the majority of that game. That INT before half was pathetic. But I slightly digress. BB values ST's as much as the other phases of the game so, provided Bolden is fully healthy and regains form in TC, he should make the team easily. We can likely get decent ST's play from other players, but will they be game changers? Bolden has made game-changing plays.

Side note: I read that Butler played 29 percent of ST's plays last season. That was interesting to me, but it is something that I hoe is not repeated. We were extremely lucky that he and Ryan stayed healthy all season long, much like Collins and High in 2014, as we heavily relied in just them in the 4-2-5 that season (and last).

I like Lewis more than Blount. And that 2 year thing isn't as accurate as it used to be. AP rushing for 2K one year after his is an example.

Also your solution to the injury risk is to magically come up with a better player where as I am just advocating carrying a better back up RB at the cost of a STer.

And don't get me wrong I love Bolden as a STer but carrying 6+ STs only guys cost us depth we needed last year at RB. I'll keep Bolden if he beats out Donald Brown as a pure RB or if we carry 5 RBs. But keeping 5 RBs will cost at another position.

IcyPatriot · Jul 19, 2016

For 1.5 million I would have liked him here.

PatsBoy12 · Jul 19, 2016

signbabybrady said:
I like Lewis more than Blount. And that 2 year thing isn't as accurate as it used to be. AP rushing for 2K one year after his is an example.

Also your solution to the injury risk is to magically come up with a better player where as I am just advocating carrying a better back up RB at the cost of a STer.

And don't get me wrong I love Bolden as a STer but carrying 6+ STs only guys cost us depth we needed last year at RB. I'll keep Bolden if he beats out Donald Brown as a pure RB or if we carry 5 RBs. But keeping 5 RBs will cost at another position.

You point to one player, one who is a physical specimen, and say that the two-year thing is overblown when we've seen far more players needing two years to be back to form? Interesting. And no, I'm not saying we solve injuries by getting a better player. I don't even know where or how you could have inferred that from what I actually said. I was strictly talking about his prowess as a runner. I just don't like Blount enough as a main back anymore . . . or at least not as much as you seem to. The guy does okay, but when is the last time he had even a good game against a good team? His YPC is nothing to write home about. He's like the Chandler Jones of running backs in that regard, great against crap teams and almost a non-factor against good ones. And as far as Brown, there's no guarantee he even makes the final roster. And based on his NFL career thus far, it would not be a stretch to predict he gets cut.

Again, Bolden is not just a ST player. He is a game changer when he's healthy. Even injured last season he was consistently coming within seconds of blocking punts. We won at least three games in 2014 in part because of his ST prowess. The injuries hopefully were an aberration last season, so we won't necessarily need all these "pure" RB's as you've stated.

But whatever. Neither of us will actually be making these roster considerations, so we'll just have to see how it plays out. Not only that, but NE isn't even overly dependent on the position to succeed. With as many pining for help and waiting for Foster, I'm obviously hardly the only person not completely thrilled with Blount. But if you're right, kudos. I really don't care that much, considering the roster is stacked anyway and we should be the favorites going in. Much respect. Have a good one.

Kontradiction · Jul 19, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
For 1.5 million I would have liked him here.

At the beginning of the offseason, I never would have thought that I would have said the same. I just hope the team isn't going to over rely on Lewis again because his frame is simply too small to handle the kind of workload he was given at the beginning of 2015.

BlueThunder · Jul 19, 2016

Lets hope Blount doesn't look like he's running in sand again....

Pat's already have a Foster at RB.....Two would be confusing

PatsBoy12 · Jul 19, 2016

BlueThunder said:
Lets hope Blount doesn't look like he's running in sand again....

Pat's already have a Foster at RB.....Two would be confusing

I'm pretty sure it'll be the same with him. I like the dude, but I would like a big back who is also a bit more explosive earlier in his run.

WazzuWheatfarmer · Jul 19, 2016

I'd like to see NE get Bishop Sankey via trade from TEN.

supafly · Jul 20, 2016

WazzuWheatfarmer said:
I'd like to see NE get Bishop Sankey via trade from TEN.

I'm assuming that you've gotten a long look at him judging by your screen name. The big gamble could be in attempting to assess trade value, and that goes for both teams. Either way, I think most here would like the idea.

supafly · Jul 20, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
For 1.5 million I would have liked him here.

The mind of Bill Belichick:

Shoot, for 1.5m dollars, I can sign two starting RBs, and still have money left over for a developmental LB with a high special teams ceiling on the practice squad.

(for the record, I'd have taken a shot on Foster at that price too)

WazzuWheatfarmer · Jul 20, 2016

supafly said:
I'm assuming that you've gotten a long look at him judging by your screen name. The big gamble could be in attempting to assess trade value, and that goes for both teams. Either way, I think most here would like the idea.

Yeah I saw him a lot when he was at UW. I really thought he would be a Top 10 NFL RB when he came out in the draft. Not sure what's went wrong for him. I wouldn't give up much for him, but if Tennessee was willing to trade him for a conditional late round pick or something I think he would be worth a look.

Kontradiction · Jul 20, 2016

BlueThunder said:
Lets hope Blount doesn't look like he's running in sand again....

Pat's already have a Foster at RB.....Two would be confusing

He will. He is either feast (breaks off a 50+ yard scamper) or famine (stopped 2-3 yards behind the LOS). That will probably be the case again. Blount needs a full three steps to get going. The may be a huge weakness if the OL struggles to open up running lanes, as it did last year.

PatsBoy12 · Jul 20, 2016

supafly said:
The mind of Bill Belichick:

Shoot, for 1.5m dollars, I can sign two starting RBs, and still have money left over for a developmental LB with a high special teams ceiling on the practice squad.

(for the record, I'd have taken a shot on Foster at that price too)

Why f*ck with the formula now? Lol But you're right, as I can totally see Bill saying that when approached about Foster.

Mack Herron · Jul 20, 2016

Should we consider Patriots RB Donald Brown more of a lock than LeGarrette Blount?

Hill presents arguments for Brown over Bolden or even Blount. Regardless, I still expect new addition (despite all evidence to the contrary).

captain stone · Jul 25, 2016

Asked for a comment regarding the Arian Foster signing in Miami, the front office response was: "Zzzzzz......"

Arian Foster signs with Dolphins

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