I like that people understimating Jimmy G

aluminum seats · Jul 15, 2016

ViperGTS said:
Yup. People are whistling right past that 0-4 graveyard. Or 1-3. This has the makings of a season that could spiral out of control real quick. Wonder how some of the FA signees feel about this now.

Are you familiar with this team at all? Bill Belichick? Any of this ring a bell?

"Spiral out of control." f outta here man, whaddya kidding.

AzorianPats · Jul 15, 2016

Just imagine if Jimmy looks like the next big thing the first month of the season..

The ultimate FU to the NFL

Soul_Survivor88 · Jul 15, 2016

AzorianPats said:
Just imagine if Jimmy looks like the next big thing the first month of the season..

That may not make Tom that pleased...lol

PScottman · Jul 15, 2016

I think the missing discussion point is how the coaching staff handles JG.

Do they do what they normally do with TB12 and spread out these aggressive defenses and let JG "read" the matchup? I'm not so sure. Different QB, different offensive approach.

More running, more high percentage passes, slow the game down style? Willingness to play field position and conservative play calling? Wouldn't shock me a bit. I can see the forum explode calling for McDaniels' head even now.

It could be the above or it could be exactly the same approach that TB would've seen in his game plan files each Tuesday morning.

aluminum seats · Jul 15, 2016

Chiuba E. Obele said:
That may not make Tom that pleased...lol

That aspect of it is yet another ****ty thing for Brady to be in the middle of. Obviously he wants the team to do well, but he's also a human being.

ViperGTS · Jul 15, 2016

aluminum seats said:
Are you familiar with this team at all? Bill Belichick? Any of this ring a bell?

"Spiral out of control." f outta here man, whaddya kidding.

Umm. Let's see here. No Edelman possibly to start the season. Massive o-line questions. Brand new offensive personnel at other key positions. A lack of a running game that most here didn't give a s*it about for years will rear its ugly head. All of these would be mitigated, as they always have been by TB.

You may want to gloss over all of this. I mean with some injury/personnel,issue, they smoked Buffalo at home last year, correct? How about Philly? They beat the Jets both times, right? And by wide margins?

That's the room for error in the modern NFL. You remove a chess piece like Brady and it's gets that much tougher. I pray and expect Jimmy G to do good and have success. I don't however ignore the possibility that it won't be enough. That's what the NFL is banking on.

Gronkowski123 · Jul 15, 2016

what if jimmy stinks?

aluminum seats · Jul 15, 2016

ViperGTS said:
Umm. Let's see here. No Edelman possibly to start the season. Massive o-line questions. Brand new offensive personnel at other key positions. A lack of a running game that most here didn't give a s*it about for years will rear its ugly head. All of these would be mitigated, as they always have been by TB.

You may want to gloss over all of this. I mean with some injury/personnel,issue, they smoked Buffalo at home last year, correct? How about Philly? They beat the Jets both times, right? And by wide margins?

That's the room for error in the modern NFL. You remove a chess piece like Brady and it's gets that much tougher. I pray and expect Jimmy G to do good and have success. I don't however ignore the possibility that it won't be enough. That's what the NFL is banking on.

OK, two very different takes from you. On the one hand, "People are whistling right past that 0-4 graveyard," and here you "expect Jimmy G to do good and have success."

Anyway, on the individual points, you're throwing a lot of stuff together and trying to make it sound bad, I guess, but stuff like "brand new offensive personnel" isn't scary to me. What, you mean like that new tight end?

The Pats uncharacteristically stumbled down the stretch last year. I repeat, uncharacteristically. That unusual dip actually gives me greater confidence this year, not less.

JG will be fine. When people say it's a QB league, it's a matter of winning titles. There's only a handful of guys who are up there and who can do it. Maybe JG will be one someday, but we don't have to find out this year. He's just got to keep the ship afloat. Pats go 2-2 at worst before a fresh Brady returns. They'll be fine.

Galeb · Jul 15, 2016

Gronkowski123 said:
what if jimmy stinks?

Reckedtrek · Jul 15, 2016

Anyone wish a snake would just bite himself and get it over already?

ViperGTS · Jul 15, 2016

aluminum seats said:
OK, two very different takes from you. On the one hand, "People are whistling right past that 0-4 graveyard," and here you "expect Jimmy G to do good and have success."

Anyway, on the individual points, you're throwing a lot of stuff together and trying to make it sound bad, I guess, but stuff like "brand new offensive personnel" isn't scary to me. What, you mean like that new tight end?

The Pats uncharacteristically stumbled down the stretch last year. I repeat, uncharacteristically. That unusual dip actually gives me greater confidence this year, not less.

JG will be fine. When people say it's a QB league, it's a matter of winning titles. There's only a handful of guys who are up there and who can do it. Maybe JG will be one someday, but we don't have to find out this year. He's just got to keep the ship afloat. Pats go 2-2 at worst before a fresh Brady returns. They'll be fine.

Because you can do both you know. You can both expect and hope, but realize that it may not work. And I listed a litany of them.

If they go 1-3, 0-4 it won't be the Pats fault. It will be as it always has been Goodells fault.

ctpatsfan77 · Jul 15, 2016

PScottman said:
More running, more high percentage passes, slow the game down style? Willingness to play field position and conservative play calling? Wouldn't shock me a bit. I can see the forum explode calling for McDaniels' head even now.

They weren't entirely conservative with Cassel. Look at the bomb he threw to Moss while standing in the Pats' end zone in KC.

bostonia3333 · Jul 15, 2016

I think he's gonna be a decent starter for us--Vegas still has the Pats at 15/2 to win it all, so they must respect Jimmy G somewhat.

Jimmy G has no running game to work with so that is really going to expose his skills , whether they are good or bad. What I'm concerned about is I feel he is the kind of guy who will take off and run if he senses any inkling of pressure in the pocket. Hopefully he can stay consistent with his mechanics and step up in the pocket and deliver with power on the intermediate throws.

Captain Cliche · Jul 15, 2016

Instead of a "He's gonna light it up 4 and 0" or "They're going 0 and 4 and go into a death spiral" pissin' contest, how about you sharp football minds tell us what he does well, what he does different from Brady.

Not trying to be smart, seriously don't get to see much preseason.

First off, he obviously is more moble than Brady (who isn't?).
I get the impression he is a very good runner. Will they have designed run plays? Does he roll out?

My other though is he throws a good intermediate to long ball. Is that true? I recall in preseason he nailed some deep routs.

Supposed to have a quick release. Not as quick as Brady?

IcyPatriot · Jul 15, 2016

We may actually see some pre season games that mean something for a change ...

Maybe ...

Possibly ...

Maybe 1 or 2 halves worth.

AzPatsFan · Jul 16, 2016

I would feel better if there were a proven run game to depend on. Scar should surprise everybody with how good the Offensive line will be, but I won't be. There is substantial talent there, plus good depth, and now its blooded too. More talent than ever before in BB reign. Some fans want to fight the last war over again. last year was rookie inexperience and lots of O-line injuries. Our RBBC could be very good, or very bad,depending on health.

Perhaps the Pats and BB will surprise the Cards with that they can do beside the short pass.

patsfan-1982 · Jul 16, 2016

if he can get the team to a 2-2 record i can see Brady going 10-2 the rest of the way thats a AFC east crown and a first round by

gitgronked82 · Jul 16, 2016

could you imagine the excitement if he went into arizona week 1 and won? that'd be incredible. that being said, I really believe we can go 3-1 with him. It's looked like when his first read is there, he's a very effective qb (yes that's true for a lot of people, too). I like having him in an offense with our quick passing game and the ability to dump off to dion. let us win 3, then let brady win 10.

Gumby · Jul 16, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
We may actually see some pre season games that mean something for a change ...

Maybe ...

Possibly ...

Maybe 1 or 2 halves worth.

So what preseason strategy would you guys use to get JG ready for week 1 and TB ready for week 5?

Do you treat JG like the full time starter and let him go the whole first half and maybe into the 3Q? Then give Tom just a quarter and let the rookie get a series or two as well? My choice.

Or do you play only JG and Brissett and just give TB practice time/no game time.

Or do you let TB still work the #1 offense to start the preseason games, but pull him early ( after 2 series maybe)

Or something else?

IcyPatriot · Jul 16, 2016

Gumby said:
So what preseason strategy would you guys use to get JG ready for week 1 and TB ready for week 5?

Do you treat JG like the full time starter and let him go the whole first half and maybe into the 3Q? Then give Tom just a quarter and let the rookie get a series or two as well? My choice.

Or do you play only JG and Brissett and just give TB practice time/no game time.

Or do you let TB still work the #1 offense to start the preseason games, but pull him early ( after 2 series maybe)

Or something else?

Brady doesn't play in any pre season games if it were me ...
What did he play like 2 halves last year?
He was 10/22 last pre season ... that's like 2/3's of a game.

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