Brady accepting suspension:(

PatsFanSince74 · Jul 15, 2016

ViperGTS said:
I have to respectfully disagree. TB had 2 options. Cave, which he did or go nuclear, which was the only last real option. Guess he took option A. I feel totally and utterly let down. You are also wrong that Goodell will get the worst of it. Brady has, and Brady will in the end take the brunt of it.

Now, we all get to hear he's a cheater and a cheater he will known to be. By giving in, he proves he's not innocent because he's partly guilty. At least that's the argument that will be put forth.

I really thought the suspension would never really stick and turn the NFL into the WWE. Instead this is what we have.

You only "go nuclear" if you know that your bomb is bigger than the other guy's bomb and that you're going to be alive at the end and the other guy is going to be dead..unless, of course, you're insane, in which case we should all watch Dr. Strangelove tonight. It's pretty clear that Olson must have told Brady that his chances of being heard by SCOTUS after CA2 refused to hear his case en banc were somewhere between slim and none.

To bring another cliche into play with the whole "go nuclear" theme, "you gotta know when to hold 'em and...know when to fold 'em."

As for the "cheater" talk, nothing is going to stop that among the haters in the near term, but, in the end, Brady will still be the GOAT.

QuantumMechanic · Jul 15, 2016

PatsFanSince74 said:
Sounds like Florio's contorting himself there. Brady clearly says in his statement that "I have made the difficult decision to no longer proceed with the legal process." But, if his name is on the suit, then he is proceeding "with the legal process."

My guess is that Brady means he's "no longer proceeding with the legal process" to overturn the suspension, which, really, is the only part that would really matter to him (the $230K he could recover is pocket lint). So even if the suit goes on in his name, I imagine he's mentally checked out of it (though of course would be happy if he ultimately won).

aluminum seats · Jul 15, 2016

PatsBoy12 said:
And you are entitled to that. Thanks.

Oh, you're welcome...

PatsBoy12 · Jul 15, 2016

PatsFanSince74 said:
Sounds like Florio's contorting himself there. Brady clearly says in his statement that "I have made the difficult decision to no longer proceed with the legal process." But, if his name is on the suit, then he is proceeding "with the legal process."

According to another poster, Brady's name must remain on it for it to continue. I'm no legal expert, so I honestly have no idea at this point what any of it means. If it doesn't directly effect the suspension anymore, which is all I care about in the very immediate future, then I don't care right now. Bring in T

PatsFanSince74 said:
Lots of short, wise posts in this thread.

My thoughts:

I'd bet the farm that Olson told him it was virtually hopeless to think that SCOTUS would take the case after CA2 turned it down for an en banc review and that Brady took his advice.

I have no doubt that TB has made the right decision.

I'm very impressed by the professionalism with which Brady has conducted himself throughout this entire mess.

I think Goodell is the biggest loser both in the short term and the long term, other than with the Owners, who are the only constituency about which he gives a ****. But, I suspect that even the Owners will view him as a liability when his contract is up.

I don't know what difference it would have ultimately made, but I can never forgive Bob Kraft for folding his tent so quickly in San Francisco last year.

I hope that the NFLPA has the guts to go out on a long strike to strip the Commissioner of the absurd powers they have granted to him.

Personally, I'm not going to access to any of the media over the next few days. I'm already anticipating the "told you so" columns by the CHB, the MCI and the Gasper, which would no doubt make me vomit if I read them...which I will not!

Finally, I want to express my admiration for the many insightful, informed and highly intelligent exchanges many of us have been able to have over the last, dreary 17 months. 99% of the Posters on this Board made us all proud throughout.

Thank you. Someone who isn't just talking through angry goggles. Lol

PatsFanSince74 · Jul 15, 2016

PatsBoy12 said:
According to another poster, Brady's name must remain on it for it to continue. I'm no legal expert, so I honestly have no idea at this point what any of it means. If it doesn't directly effect the suspension anymore, which is all I care about in the very immediate future, then I don't care right now. Bring on TC.

Yeah, that's above my IQ and Pay Grade as well...

sb1 · Jul 15, 2016

Now that Brady ended it on his own... maybe the NFL will be inclined to reach out an olive branch to us and give us our 2017 4th rounder back? #wishfulthinking

QuantumMechanic · Jul 15, 2016

PatsFanSince74 said:
It's pretty clear that Olson must have told Brady that his chances of being heard by SCOTUS after CA2 refused to hear his case en banc were somewhere between slim and none.

I disagree. If Olson told Brady that there's no reason not to continue and every reason to continue. Fight to the bitter end.

I think Olson told Brady something like "There's an X% chance that fighting the suspension will result in being suspended in December or January." I think that's why Brady decided to not ask for a stay.

upstater1 · Jul 15, 2016

A good replacement for Goodell would be Vince McMahon. He would be the perfect guy to take over after Roger. Clearly, the NFL owners are moving in that direction.

IllegalContact · Jul 15, 2016

I think there was a fear that if Brady/NFLPA proceeded and failed, it would even further solidify the NFL's position

as much as it sucks, this thing was only going sideways...

DaBruinz · Jul 15, 2016

PatsBoy12 said:
How would I do that if there have been backdoor dealings between businessmen? I wasn't privy. So I guess the direct answer to your question would be no. And I'm not saying there definitely have been. I'm saying I believe this to be a possibility just because this whole ending seems weird to me. But what does my opinion do to change anything? Why is it so important to you, with respect? I'm not looking for any debate, so your frustration, assuming that's what it really books down to, would probably be better released elsewhere.

So, in other words, you got caught talking out your rear end with no actual facts and how dare anyone question your absurd opinions..

PatsBoy12 · Jul 15, 2016

upstater1 said:
A good replacement for Goodell would be Vince McMahon. He would be the perfect guy to take over after Roger. Clearly, the NFL owners are moving in that direction.

I don't know, man. The XFL bombed pretty bad and is the WWE still around? But maybe something really is better than Goodell at this point.

DaBruinz · Jul 15, 2016

upstater1 said:
A good replacement for Goodell would be Vince McMahon. He would be the perfect guy to take over after Roger. Clearly, the NFL owners are moving in that direction.

Funny you should mention that..

rochrist · Jul 15, 2016

AtomicDawg said:
I will be disappointed if the NFLPA doesn't grow a pair during the next set of labor negotitations and reduces the way-overreaching power the Commissioner has to basically, "police" himself. That's just nuts and what Roger Gotohell has done (admitted because the NFLPA wasn't forward-thinking enough) wouldn't be allowed in any business or any other area.

I respect TB for his decision and I would have regardless.

It doesn't do any good for the NFLPA to grow a pair when the players cave on a strike in the first week.

RobertWeathers · Jul 15, 2016

QuantumMechanic said:
I disagree. If Olson told Brady that there's no reason not to continue and every reason to continue. Fight to the bitter end.

I think Olson told Brady something like "There's an X% chance that fighting the suspension will result in being suspended in December or January." I think that's why Brady decided to not ask for a stay.

I think that is THE reason but with two different potential lines of reasoning by TB12.

Angle 1. If he missed games in Dec and Jan and the Pats bowed out early he'd have a tough time dealing with that.

Angle 2. If he missed games in Dec and Jan and the Pats won the SB with Jimmy and TB12 was traded somewhere he'd have a tough time with that as well.

PatsWickedPissah · Jul 15, 2016

QuantumMechanic said:
Here it is:

I wish he would have fought it to the end, even if hopeless. Failing to take it to the bitter end will just give the haters more ammo.

I believe he did this in the best interests of the team so they could make specific plans.

flasox27 · Jul 15, 2016

The bottom line is that Goodell and his minions have won. No happy talk about Garapolo is going to change that. The destruction of the Pats reputation that began in 2007 when Kraft capitulated to Goodell at the behest of Mara and Rooney is etched in granite along with the ruination of Brady's reputation. I expect now that the issue is over, there will be a reconciliation between Kraft and his buddy Goodell and he can get back his seat in the back of the owners' meeting room. Don't be surprised if they come after BB next and Kraft does his turtle routine again.

woolster22 · Jul 15, 2016

Seems like the most reasonable choice given the very real possibility of being granted a stay, only to have the SC not take the case sometime more meaningful, say with 3 games left in the reg season with a postseason berth on the line.

signbabybrady · Jul 15, 2016

PatsWickedPissah · Jul 15, 2016

Kraft has stuck a "Kick Me" sign on his back for the front office and the other 31.
What will be the next punishment?

DaBruinz · Jul 15, 2016

PatsfanTN said:
Not true, most CBA's utilize an independant arbitrator. The NFL CBA does not, which was holy crap dumb as hell to agree with in the first place.

It's been that way since the first CBA they signed.. And normally an independent arbiter is used. Unless the Commissioner decides to do it himself.

What I can't believe is that this wasn't sent back on the merits that Goodell broke Arbitration laws. And it's plain as day that he did. I'm disgusted that none of the 2CA stated such. Article 46 cannot and does not supercede Arbitration law. Yet, the 2CA somehow claimed it does??

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