Tom Curran's Top 100 Plays of the Belichick Era

IllegalContact said:

it came from the same book......so it's not like the book is all that accurate.....but believe what you want.......hindsight is on your side

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How can it be hindsight when Belichick was in fact thinking this way prior to the start of the 2001 season? The team lost nine of the last twelve games with Bledsoe starting. BB is on record for very nearly making Brady the starter at the beginning of 2001. The switch was about to happen sooner rather than later, even without the Mo Lewis hit.

In terms of Moss, if there is one thing that we have seen with BB it is his being open minded and willing to adapt.

You're moving the goal posts. Come on, you're better than that.

Just because ESPN and NFLN make assumptions and repeat something over and over so many times that the masses accept it as factual, that doesn't make it the truth. As a fan of the team that went through spygate and framegate you should know that first hand.

1960Pats said:

Signing a player to a contract makes him easier to trade.

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Except for the guaranteed $$/salary cap issues.

For comic relief we need the buttfumble up there, and Edelman's TD in the same sequence. Another play to sneak somewhere on the list would be Moss's one-handed "velcro hand" TD catch vs. Revis.

IllegalContact said:

didn't that book also say that BB would not go after players like..... Randy Moss?

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It didn't mention Moss by name.

85 >>>> 71

Top 100 plays of Belichick Era: Numbers 85-71

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#76

jmt57 said:

How can it be hindsight when Belichick was in fact thinking this way prior to the start of the 2001 season? The team lost nine of the last twelve games with Bledsoe starting. BB is on record for very nearly making Brady the starter at the beginning of 2001. The switch was about to happen sooner rather than later, even without the Mo Lewis hit.

In terms of Moss, if there is one thing that we have seen with BB it is his being open minded and willing to adapt.

You're moving the goal posts. Come on, you're better than that.

Just because ESPN and NFLN make assumptions and repeat something over and over so many times that the masses accept it as factual, that doesn't make it the truth. As a fan of the team that went through spygate and framegate you should know that first hand.

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and yet they signed him to a record deal......

I don't know what ESPN or NFLN says because I don't watch them.....

fact is you have no idea when Brady was coming in if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt......and there's nothing to suppose

IcyPatriot said:

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Are we even allowed to post this around here? Kills me every time I think about it. I also wonder what happened with the Pierre Woods fumble recovery that wasn't. Either of those turnovers happen, and we win the game. Meh. Now I'm depressed.

IcyPatriot said:

#76

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If the Eagles player doesn't make that difficult, diving catch, it's likely NE ball.

I wonder where the Dan Connolly kick return from 2010 is going to end up.

IcyPatriot said:

#79

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I guess we have different definitions of "Top 100". This would appear on my list of "Top 100 things that made me want to break stuff and hurt people".

IllegalContact said:

and yet they signed him to a record deal......

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And yet that record deal did not result in Bledsoe getting his starting job back later that season once healthy. In other words, it is irrelevant information.

IllegalContact said:

I don't know what ESPN or NFLN says because I don't watch them.....

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Pointed that out because those two follow the same line of logic; i.e., 'that if not for Mo Lewis, Tom Brady would never have become a starter and the Patriots would never win a single super bowl'.

IllegalContact said:

fact is you have no idea when Brady was coming in if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt......and there's nothing to suppose

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No, obviously I don't know the exact moment; that would be impossible for anybody to say. I'm just of the opinion that the importance of the Mo Lewis hit has been overstated by many, both fans and media over the years - due to lack of knowledge as to what was going on with the team beyond headlines and box scores at that point in time.

The Brandon Five said:

I guess we have different definitions of "Top 100". This would appear on my list of "Top 100 things that made me want to break stuff and hurt people".

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Thank jebus and Tebow the Pats won SB49, makes crap like this...bearable...

QuantumMechanic said:

If the Eagles player doesn't make that difficult, diving catch, it's likely NE ball.

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Never realized what a phenomenal play that was. Looked like Omar Vizquel out there.

jmt57 said:

And yet that record deal did not result in Bledsoe getting his starting job back later that season once healthy. In other words, it is irrelevant information.

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baseless

Pointed that out because those two follow the same line of logic; i.e., 'that if not for Mo Lewis, Tom Brady would never have become a starter and the Patriots would never win a single super bowl'.

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again....baseless......mostly because I don't think anyone is saying that at all........but it is the moment the franchise ACTUALLY changed

No, obviously I don't know the exact moment; that would be impossible for anybody to say. I'm just of the opinion that the importance of the Mo Lewis hit has been overstated by many, both fans and media over the years - due to lack of knowledge as to what was going on with the team beyond headlines and box scores at that point in time.

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there is a possibility that there is credence to what you say.....but the limit of it is as a POSSIBILITY

the only thing we know FOR SURE is that the one moment things changed if there was such a moment was the Mo' Lewis hit........the most irrelevant thing anyone can say is that the moment is overstated

if things go any differently and bledsoe doesn't get hurt, it is possible that Brady comes in and starts at some point of the season.......probably when they're eliminated from playoff contention....

the when has as much value as the what.....timing is everything

KontradictioN said:

I wonder where the Dan Connolly kick return from 2010 is going to end up.

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I was wondering the same thing about the safety and comeback in Denver from 2003. I would love to be able to see that game again.

#84 - Big Vince is the most athletic NT I've ever seen. He is also very articulate. I can still remember sitting in my car outside of work when he was interviewed after being drafted.

#81 - I thought that Tom E was a bit hard on Drew. Had he not handled that situation as well as he did he could have split that locker room in two. Instead the Pats won their first SB.

#78 - One of my sons has been living abroad for almost a decade and I had the pleasure of attending that Browns game with him. One problem. Because of the fear of getting caught in traffic and the totally bleak look of that game, he and I walked out with under two minutes left and the Pats trailling by two TDs. I feel so ashamed.

#75 - The Gronkterference non-call in Carolina is one of the examples of why I'll have no trouble dumping the NYJFL once Brady hangs them up. The same is true of the blatant hold on him on a 3rd down play vs Baltimore in the 2014 playoff game. Thankfully, the Pats came back in that one, crapped all over the Indiots the next week and then dropped an even bigger load onto the NYJFL, the mediots and the loudmouth Seahags in the SB.

#71 - One of my darker days. Besides seeing the Pats lose to the Giants again, I was so busy running around gathering up all of my SB square numbers before the game that I forgot to run by the house and place the bet that I was talking about with a bookie friend earlier. He wouldn't take it, but I was planning on contacting Vegas and placing a $100 bet on the first score of the game being a safety. At 1000/1 that one cost me 100K.

Koma said:

I had forgotten about the details of that play, other than the Jets committing the same penalty earlier in the game and the officials missing it.

Can anyone imagine the uproar if these events played out in the Patriots favor? A penalty is called on the Jets, giving the Patriots a second chance at a game-winning FG. This penalty was never called in a game before and would never be called again. According to the league's rules available online, what the Jets did was legal. There was even a video of Blandino explaining the rule that matched the Jets understanding of it. After the game, the rules are updated to show that the call was correct and it was a penalty. The torches and pitchforks would be out. There would be claims of game-fixing and calls for a congressional investigation. Since the call went against the Patriots, though, the reaction is a shoulder shrug and the incident is quickly forgotten.

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Cameragate was never called before or again, deflategate was never called before or again, and in fairness to Saintsfans bountygate was never called before or again, nor, now that I think of it, bullygate. The one that has never been called before that needs to be called is Integritygate. where this sh.tbag commisioner gets called out for having none and goes the way of Ramsey Bolton.