OT: Cavs vs. Warriors (Who Wins the NBA Finals?)

drewskie said:

The toughest competitiom Lebron has faced from 2010-present was in 2012 with an aging Celtics team.

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This has got to be a joke.

The Spurs w/o D Wade?
The Warriors last year with no Kyrie/Love?

drewskie said:

Not sure I agree with that. The raw stats would suggest Lebron is in the discussion with MJ but he is the ultimate stat padder. Heat beat an inexperienced OKC team then Lebron was bailed out by Ray Allen in 2013. Ppl conveniently forget just how bad Lebron played down the stretch or game 6 and the first 6 games of that series in general.
I will agrebe that Peyton has been more underwhelming but the toughest competitiom Lebron has faced from 2010-present was in 2012 with an aging Celtics team.

Both heralded coming into the league, both with underwhelming post season success.

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Yeah he was bailed out by Ray, but he balled big time after he was. You can dislike LeBron like I do but, you still gotta give him credit. Brady has won tons of games where he got a second chance too (Chargers playoffs, Saints, Giants last year). Peyton has never had a game like LeBron last night or 2012 game 6.

PatsFan2 said:

Yeah GS does have a better Team and Bench but I feesl for the Cleveland Team and their Fans I don't see them losing Thursday. It's sad that Love ain't living up to that contract Lebron is the Brady of Basketball. If Cleveland can push it to a Game 7 it's anyone's Game.

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lol

CISGS said:

This has got to be a joke.

The Spurs w/o D Wade?
The Warriors last year with no Kyrie/Love?

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In the eastern playoffs I mean shouldve specified that.

Froob said:

There really isn't a good comparison for Brady, Kobe is too selfish and Brady is a lot higher up on all time NFL list than Kobe in NBA. LeBron is..well no need to dig into that. Maybe consistently good like Duncan but, their personalities are too different. Maybe Bird would be a somewhat decent comparison?

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Yeah, Bird.

rochrist said:

Yeah, Bird.

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How was Magic on the court, was he a trash talker like a Bird? I know he's a nice guy off the court.

Froob said:

How was Magic on the court, was he a trash talker like a Bird? I know he's a nice guy off the court.

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I don't know really beyond how he was with Larry. He and Larry trashtalked each other all the time, but they also we're good friends.

I am so sickened by what happened game 5. That suspension was BS and really changed the course of that game. The NBA got their game 6 but i am not going to be watching it. I just hate how much they go about fixing things like this when it should have been over last game.

Man that was an awful 2nd half by GSW.

Excellent game by Kyrie.
Excellent game by Lebrick.
Excellent first half by Thompson.
Ok first half by Curry.
Terrible 2nd hald by the last 2.

All the others guys are pieces of the puzzle, this series is about these dudes.

Kerr needs to coach them better when the 3's are not going in. It's ok to shoot a lot of 3's, it's not a plus like it is for other teams, it's their game (and at a certain point the Cavs have that too), they have a better % in 3's than 2's. But when the balls are not falling they need to play basketball at the post. They panicked, in the second half Thompson and Curry were trying some mediocre shots without proper technique and posture, it was bizarre, it was looking like some sort of TV show competition like who makes 10 shots (to the basket) first. I know they throw from long distances and etc, sometimes they just get the ball and are already making the move for a shoot but yesterday it was looking like an amateur league, I mean that would be offensive to amateurs, it was looking like anything other than basketball.

BobDigital said:

I am so sickened by what happened game 5. That suspension was BS and really changed the course of that game. The NBA got their game 6 but i am not going to be watching it. I just hate how much they go about fixing things like this when it should have been over last game.

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My fear is that it changed the course of the series. Now they are going back to CLE. Cavs have momentum and can certainly win. That leads to a Game 7 in which anything can happen.

No one is saying Green is innocent here but the penalty does not justify the action. It is also BS that LeDogFaker got off scott free.

robertweathers said:

No one is saying Green is innocent here but the penalty does not justify the action. It is also BS that LeDogFaker got off scott free.

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So LeBron should get the same treatment as the dude who kicked a dude in the ****, body slammed Michael Beasley and punched another guy's nuts AFTER getting told by the league he was on a ZERO tolerance policy?

Yeah that's fair.

letekro said:

lol. What a pathetic little hater you are. 41-16-7 and all over the place on defense and you can't give the man his due. Sad.

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Wow, you are a messed up person. I'm not an NBA fan so it's what I just noticed. Another member kindly explained Lebron did have an "extraordinary game". You on the other hand have been so butthurt by being taken to the woodshed over and over and over and over and over on multiple threads for being a troll, you're so desperate to lash out on the first member you can find.

Now tell me, who's really pathetic?

PF_SU said:

Adam Silver may be more intelligent and less dishonest than Goodell ....

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Isn't this true of pretty much everybody?

CISGS said:

So LeBron should get the same treatment as the dude who kicked a dude in the ****, body slammed Michael Beasley and punched another guy's nuts AFTER getting told by the league he was on a ZERO tolerance policy?

Yeah that's fair.

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Then Green should have been punished for those. He wasn't.

LeBron was a douche-bag too by walking over his head w/ the ball sack scraping his head. Plus he started it with the arm.

Stars get preferential treatment and I get that but the judgement on that entire exchange was ********.

robertweathers said:

Then Green should have been punished for those. He wasn't.

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Green was warned and told he was on a zero tolerance policy. I agree, he should have been suspended then, but he was literally told to not do ANYTHING questionable. I don't get how people fail to understand this. Draymond Green dared the league to do something.

robertweathers said:

LeBron was a douche-bag too by walking over his head w/ the ball sack scraping his head. Plus he started it with the arm.

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I agree. LeBron should have not walked over him. Having said that, you don't think there was any type of baiting going on? LeBron was fully aware Draymond was one mess-up from getting kicked out.

robertweathers said:

Stars get preferential treatment and I get that but the judgement on that entire exchange was ********.

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And in what league is that not the case?

robertweathers said:

My fear is that it changed the course of the series. Now they are going back to CLE. Cavs have momentum and can certainly win. That leads to a Game 7 in which anything can happen.

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I'm not really feeling the Cavs' momentum. They won a game over a Green-less team where they needed two superstar performances of 40+ points to do it.

To take it one step further, no team down 3-1 has even forced a game 7 in 50 years, let alone won it. It's one thing to say that their odds of pushing it back to GS have improved, but another thing to think they're going to go back to GS again and beat them on their home court back to back.

CISGS said:

Green was warned and told he was on a zero tolerance policy. I agree, he should have been suspended then, but he was literally told to not do ANYTHING questionable. I don't get how people fail to understand this. Draymond Green dared the league to do something.

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When was Green warned? LeMope started it. Zero tolerance policy for what? How can a player play a game when told not to do anything questionable?

Please note that I am not trying to argue with you directly- its more of a question born from frustration that I ask the NBA to become much more consistent and clear and actually officiate well because I think they absolutely suck.

CISGS said:

I agree. LeBron should have not walked over him. Having said that, you don't think there was any type of baiting going on? LeBron was fully aware Draymond was one mess-up from getting kicked out.

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Baiting is part of the game. LeBron talks trash too. That is a form of baiting.

CISGS said:

And in what league is that not the case?

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Not the NFL.

supafly said:

I'm not really feeling the Cavs' momentum. They won a game over a Green-less team where they needed two superstar performances of 40+ points to do it.

To take it one step further, no team down 3-1 has even forced a game 7 in 50 years, let alone won it. It's one thing to say that their odds of pushing it back to GS have improved, but another thing to think they're going to go back to GS again and beat them on their home court back to back.

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Those factoids are the worst. Someone is due.

I don't like the way Steph is playing. Its scaring me.

Spoilers: Cavs win game 6, Warriors win game 7

EatSleepWinRepeat said:

Spoilers: Cavs win game 6, Warriors win game 7

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Thats where my money is (if I was indeed gambling)