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Rooting for Italians, Germany has the most talent but they have been playing bad, France is the host and is loaded. I think Spain may bounce back and get to the final
 
Rooting for Italians, Germany has the most talent but they have been playing bad, France is the host and is loaded. I think Spain may bounce back and get to the final

Depends on if the De Gea situation derails the Spanish team. Total scumbag if he did what he is accused of doing. France and Germany are my 1a 1b right now.
 
Don't really care about soccer one way or another. But I will watch the game tomorrow at the local Irish pub because it's simply an excuse for me to day drink.
Nice! Always interesting to join the Irishmen heckling England.
As sure as death and taxes.
When England go out, it will be down to the same old problems, stuborness, naivety and England's best players not playing well enough.
At least you don't have ol' Posh Spice to blame any more...
 
Rooting for Italians, Germany has the most talent but they have been playing bad, France is the host and is loaded. I think Spain may bounce back and get to the final

Germany usually get their act together when the tournament starts. To me the French defense looks unconvincing and the Spanish strikers are unproven.

The Belgians are loaded with talent throughout the squad and could be a dark horse but will they gel?
 
Germany should win this
 
so does britain get kicked out of the next euro tournament after they leave the EU? :D
 
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And I say that as the proudest Englishman you'll ever meet.

There's plenty of youth and talent, raw talent, but not much guile, not much leadership and the middle of the defence is a disaster waiting to happen.

The biggest problem is the Rooney conundrum. England's best chance is getting their best players on the pitch, as daft as it sounds, and Rooney isn't one of them. He hasn't been for some time either. Unfortunately Hodgson views him as undroppable so he's tried everything to shoe-horn him into the lineup alongside Kane (who is England's best forward and MUST play) and Vardy, who is coming off an incredible season and is the man in form.

Either 4-4-2 of 4-2-3-1 is the way to go for England - Kane and Vardy up front if the first formation; Alli playing as the number 10 behind Kane if the latter. Even if you were planning on playing 4-3-3, then you would find a place for Sturridge ahead of Rooney.

But then not to ignore the defence. Rose is the man in posession at left back and is in great form. I'm a Liverpool fan so I'm always going to say Clyne should be the right back, but even so he's a much better defender than Walker both in terms of position and discipline. The problem is between the fullbacks - Cahill is an automatic pick yet has been struggling at this level for some time. Even worse it looks like a straight fight between John Stones, who should be sat at home watching the tournament and learning how to defend, and Chris Smalling. To be fair to Smalling, he was one of the few United players who was consistent this year and could walk away from the tournament as the main man, but in all honesty it's difficult to look at this crop of centre backs and not yearn for the days of Terry, Ferdinand, Carragher, Campbell etc.

When England go out, it will be down to the same old problems, stuborness, naivety and England's best players not playing well enough.

Excellent diagnosis. What you say about Rooney and the central defenders seems dead right to me.

I don't watch much football these days, but one thing that struck me in the last WC was the importance of ... well, we can't call them wingers because they don't just play outside, so let's say ball-carriers. With marking so tight and midfield defences so deep, a guy who can go past a defender in tight space opens things up like nothing else.

Most obvious example is Messi, but Robben is another. It looked like Sterling would be that guy for England, but he's not in most people's starting line-up and there doesn't look to be an alternative.
 
As first generation German, I say Deutschland Über Alles! Of course I have to miss the game Sunday vs Ukraine because I have baseball practice
 
Brilliant strike by Bale. Wales 1-0 over Slovakia.
 
What a beautiful, goal by Bale.
 
some run by Hamsik that was taken off the line before hand. good strike by Bale but the goalkeeper was horrendous.
 
some run by Hamsik that was taken off the line before hand. good strike by Bale but the goalkeeper was horrendous.
Yeah, on replay the ball didn't slice as much as I thought it did on live look...goalie mispositioned/misplayed.
 
Just to point out - Kingsley Coman has won the French, German and Spanish league title so far in his career.

He's 19.

It was the Italian Seria A not the Spanish league. But yeah 3 different league titles at 19! Could have been a sprinter too - absolutely rapid!!
 
I'll be supporting Germany as always...... But in truth it's A.B.E (Anyone But England).

Couple of dark horses might be Croatia and Portugal. Both would need a very kind draw though.
 
Germany usually get their act together when the tournament starts. To me the French defense looks unconvincing and the Spanish strikers are unproven.

The Belgians are loaded with talent throughout the squad and could be a dark horse but will they gel?

Agree on Belgium, that's a really talented team.
 
Sonofab.tch. just checked the ground and Ireland is in the group of death. Sweden, Belgium, and Italy in Group EE, it's hard to see them making it out of the group.
 
Since my Lithuanians didn't (and never) make it, and as a Borussia Dortmund supporter, I'm with Germany. Easy group too.

France DOES look vulnerable, but that's kinda been their way for a little while. They're still clutch when it counts.
 
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