The Integrity League is OK with Las Vegas

I lived in Las Vegas for a few years. I've been there at least a dozen other times for a week or two stretch a shot. In my opinion, having an NFL team there would be a terrible idea and I don't think it will happen for any number of reasons.

Uncle Meat said:

I lived in Las Vegas for a few years. I've been there at least a dozen other times for a week or two stretch a shot. In my opinion, having an NFL team there would be a terrible idea and I don't think it will happen for any number of reasons.

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Might one of them be they are not that large a market?

XLIX said:

How so? DFS's have been declared illegal in several states based on the logic that they constitute sports gambling and sports gambling is illegal. But that certainly doesn't imply that sports gambling is going to remain illegal indefinitely.

The DFS industry is accelerating - not slowing down - the push to legalize sports betting. All those bans you mention are only helping the cause.

Nationwide legalized sports gambling is inevitable. Bear in mind that I am not saying it will be legal in *every* state. It will be like casino gambling; some states will allow it and some won't.

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Sports Books like in Las Vegas casinos exist in only four states - Oregon, Delaware, Nevada and Montana. Nevada is the only place where most casinos have a sports book.

The NBA opposed the NJ attempt because they want federal regulation and the full involvement of the IRS, FBI, FTC, the Commerce Department and federal courts rather than some hodgepodge of conflicting state laws. The NBA conducts its business in two countries and 24 states ( I think). Trying not to run afoul of statutes or raise suspicions that govern things like licensing establishments to take bets on NBA games, age verification to prevent minors from gambling, mechanisms to help people with gambling problems from falling off the wagon, and how bettors receive information that can unfairly affect the line is tough. It's sort of like the marijuana laws that currently do not permit interstate commerce and banking since it violates drug and money laundering laws. Pro sports, by their very nature are interstate activities.

Adam Silver writes in support of legalization of sports gambling

You may be correct that it's coming.

But we'll need a certain type of President and Congress that can take unorthodox steps to get a federal system of laws passed. Maybe the guy with the bad toupee will take a few minutes off from deporting Mexicans, building a wall, punishing girls for exercising their reproductive rights, locking out Muslims, and making up sophomoric nicknames for everybody he meets to legalize sports books nationwide. I bet he doesn't get the chance.

goheels22002 said:

Sports Books like in Las Vegas casinos exist in only four states - Oregon, Delaware, Nevada and Montana.

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Sportsbooks like in Las Vegas exist in only 1 state: Nevada. Those other 3 states you listed have very limited ability to wager on sports. When you go to a sportsbook in Delaware, the betting options available to you are nothing like ones in Vegas. Montana merely has a state lottery with rules very similar to those of the Daily Fantasy Sites. You cannot bet on, for example, the Patriots to beat the Cardinals.

goheels22002 said:

But we'll need a certain type of President and Congress that can take unorthodox steps to get a federal system of laws passed. Maybe the guy with the bad toupee will take a few minutes off from deporting Mexicans, building a wall, punishing girls for exercising their reproductive rights, locking out Muslims, and making up sophomoric nicknames for everybody he meets to legalize sports books nationwide. I bet he doesn't get the chance.

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Please keep politics in the political forum. Having said that, there are 4 realistic paths to legalized sports gambling nationwide:

1) NJ wins their en banc review
2) NJ appeals to the Supreme Court and wins there
3) NJ and other states start accepting sports betting anyway with the understanding that even though it violates federal law, the federal government will not enforce their own laws (similar to how marijuana was legalized in Colorado)
4) Enough states get their Congressmen to change the federal law, and the sitting President signs it.

Silver Blue&Red said:

There are 2 words that disgust me. "Integrity" ..... "NFL"

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That could NEVER be ASSociated in a same sentence.

Nunchucks said:

I would love to go to a patriots game in vegas

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Hell yeah.....now that would be one hell of a road trip!!

If they build a stadium for the raiders, then a Super Bowl in Vegas would next - that'd be awesome!!

XLIX said:

I've gained a lot of respect for Davis over the past year. The concept of an owner who puts his own team first and stands up to the league is one I have acquired a great deal of respect for.

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A lot of people will say Kraft does not fight enough. Davis seemed to have the opposite problem. He alienated players like Marcus Allen, good coaches like Shannahan and Gruden. Grudges were probably behind some of the weird things that Bay Area sportscasters would famously tag as: "It's the Raiders"

But maybe if the only thing Al Davis did was that fight to go from Oakland to LA, that would make the Raiders radioactive for sometime. This does not seem fair to Mark Davis - has he done anything to hiss off the other owners?

goheels22002 said:

...But we'll need a certain type of President and Congress that can take unorthodox steps to get a federal system of laws passed. Maybe the guy with the bad toupee will take a few minutes off from deporting Mexicans, building a wall, punishing girls for exercising their reproductive rights, locking out Muslims, and making up sophomoric nicknames for everybody he meets to legalize sports books nationwide...

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…and I hope he gets to do all of those things.

goheels22002 said:

But we'll need a certain type of President and Congress that can take unorthodox steps to get a federal system of laws passed. Maybe the guy with the bad toupee will take a few minutes off from deporting Mexicans, building a wall, punishing girls for exercising their reproductive rights, locking out Muslims, and making up sophomoric nicknames for everybody he meets to legalize sports books nationwide. I bet he doesn't get the chance.

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Take this political bs where it belongs.

fgssand said:

Hell yeah.....now that would be one hell of a road trip!!

If they build a stadium for the raiders, then a Super Bowl in Vegas would next - that'd be awesome!!

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Can I come?

XLIX said:

I've gained a lot of respect for Davis over the past year.

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Ah huh.

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