We'll see, Jacoby

Hmmmmmm, i'm feeling kind of bored today.

What to do? . . . What to do? . . .

Oh, I know I'll go logon and complain about it being a whole ELEVEN DAYS since the draft and there is that one bastage who hasn't signed a contract yet! I bet I can come up with some good scurrilous crap about him and defame his character- yeah-leadership i'll complain about his leadership. . . That's the Ticket!

Anybody else remember when holdouts in AUGUST were a potential issue? It is freaking mid-May. Hell, being overseas, i technically didnt even have to have my taxes done yet. Get a grip and find something real to complain about (well it is offseason, so i guess there isnt anything else really to ***** about).

Friends and relatives as advisors? Oh well, it is May after all.

AKA: rookie QB isn't very experienced in reading/understanding the finer points of NFL contracts.

This is part of why I think it's a bad idea for players to negotiate their own deals, but what's done is done. It should have been expected the moment he stated that he would be doing that. The very existence of this thread is at least a month premature.

Reminds me of Tedy Bruschi negotiating his contract.. that worked out pretty good, why pay a percentage to an agent??.. the contract is standard and the amount is slotted.

DarrylS said:

Reminds me of Tedy Bruschi negotiating his contract.. that worked out pretty good, why pay a percentage to an agent??

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Did it work out so well for Tedy? I thought the consensus was that he ended up at least modestly underpaid.

Remember, football agents take a tiny percentage compared to agents in other fields. The cut a player's agent takes is less than what a vendor gives PayPal to process online payments. Once you get past the slotted rookie deal, it's pretty clear that the representation is well worth it. But even for a rookie deal, there are fungible areas: bonus structures, guarantees, etc.

And there's another important role of an agent: acting as a go-between in a potentially prickly negotiation to maintain a positive relationship between you and your employer. Let the agent play bad cop. Let the agent butt heads with the intransigent lawyers. Keep your emotions out of it and you end up better off.

Has the neverending Deflategate nonsense left us with such an addiction to controversy that now we're questioning the leadership of a rookie who hasn't signed his slotted contract yet? This happens every year, at least one guy takes longer than usual to sign for whatever reason, but it always gets done.

patchick said:

Did it work out so well for Tedy? I thought the consensus was that he ended up at least modestly underpaid.

Remember, football agents take a tiny percentage compared to agents in other fields. The cut a player's agent takes is less than what a vendor gives PayPal to process online payments. Once you get past the slotted rookie deal, it's pretty clear that the representation is well worth it. But even for a rookie deal, there are fungible areas: bonus structures, guarantees, etc.

And there's another important role of an agent: acting as a go-between in a potentially prickly negotiation to maintain a positive relationship between you and your employer. Let the agent play bad cop. Let the agent butt heads with the intransigent lawyers. Keep your emotions out of it and you end up better off.

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"modestly underpaid"is a very relative term..

Perhaps I am wrong, but from my understanding there is not a lot to negotiate.. the contract is pretty much boilerplate and as is the money... 2 or 3% is significant cash for a lot of these guys.

I can see other reasons the kid is doing it. Sounds like he's pretty switched on, perhaps he is using it as a learning experience that he might leverage in the future, perhaps he's interested in becoming an agent eventually himself.

I see no issues with it. I'd probably do the same thing just because I'm stubborn and an idiot and reckon I could figure it out. I'd lose money for sure but it would be mitigated by whatever I didn't have to pay the agent. And I'd learn a lot, which is the most important thing for me.

Sicilian said:

Has the neverending Deflategate nonsense left us with such an addiction to controversy that now we're questioning the leadership of a rookie who hasn't signed his slotted contract yet? This happens every year, at least one guy takes longer than usual to sign for whatever reason, but it always gets done.

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The difference this time is that the player is not using an agent.

And the clock continues to tick on "much ado about nothing" ...

Link: Jacoby Brissett, only draft pick without an agent, remains unsigned

I think I saw 20 3rd round picks are still unsigned, so maybe we'll have to wait until those around him sign.

What an awful thread. We are all now dumber for having read it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

What now gets negotiated in rookie deals?

may be helpful.

FWIW - Malcolm Brown did not sign his rookie contract until June 19th. Managed to have a pretty good rookie season with such a late start

patchick said:

Remember, football agents take a tiny percentage compared to agents in other fields. The cut a player's agent takes is less than what a vendor gives PayPal to process online payments. Once you get past the slotted rookie deal, it's pretty clear that the representation is well worth it. But even for a rookie deal, there are fungible areas: bonus structures, guarantees, etc.

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To be fair, they take a tiny percentage of the NFL contract itself. [The CBA specifically says that agent fees cannot exceed 3% of money paid, and according to Andrew Brandt, some agents voluntarily charge less than half the maximum to get players to sign.]

There are no restrictions on how much an agent can charge on an endorsement deal, and that may be where his reluctance lies.

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Jacoby Brissett on signing his rookie deal: ‘It’ll get done’

If this drags on at all it doesn't make this kid look like the leader he supposedly wants to be, especially with all the other rookies signed. It's not like he was a first-rounder, let alone the team's first draft pick. If he really wanted to impress people he already would be under contract.

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Thats total ********! Doesnt make him look any less of a leader. Maybe you should do a -little research first before disparaging a classy kid --look into why the vast majority of 3rd rounders in the nfl are still unsigned. SMH

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Thats total ********! Doesnt make him look any less of a leader. Maybe you should do a -little research first before disparaging a classy kid --look into why the vast majority of 3rd rounders in the nfl are still unsigned. SMH

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The OP is a weirdo, don't sweat it

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The OP is a weirdo, don't sweat it

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Is that a gnat I hear buzzing around here? ... Oh, it's that pipsqueak from the peanut gallery once again. You've been noticed, thanks for sharing.

Hey -- you better not give me another thumbs-down or I swear, I WILL retaliate!

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Is that a gnat I hear buzzing around here? ... Oh, it's that pipsqueak from the peanut gallery once again. You've been noticed, thanks for sharing.

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I swear to God this guy has asbergers or something

ctpatsfan77 said:

To be fair, they take a tiny percentage of the NFL contract itself. [The CBA specifically says that agent fees cannot exceed 3% of money paid, and according to Andrew Brandt, some agents voluntarily charge less than half the maximum to get players to sign.]

There are no restrictions on how much an agent can charge on an endorsement deal, and that may be where his reluctance lies.

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Wait that's really in the CBA? Seems like its probably there so Players aren't taken advantage of by the agents but since the NFL has no integrity it makes me wonder if this was actually an attempt at getting the players worse representation. Shouldn't the players be able to buy the brightest mind possible to represent them?