Raiders NFL Draft Notes.. Gronk projected to be #2 Tight End..

convertedpatsfan · May 7, 2016

Semi-OT: Raiders had Gronk on top of TE draft list

Interesting photos from what looks like a draft preparation binder from the Raiders from 2010. Includes some of their draft profiles on players, as well as some rankings of positions.

The Raiders had Gronk at the top of the list with Gresham and considered both potential Pro Bowlers worthy of 1st round picks.

Nothing really insightful here, but thought it would be of interest to some.

I.M. Fletcher · May 7, 2016

Thanks for trading him to us then instead if picking him yourselves.

ctpatsfan77 · May 7, 2016

And they had the Prisoner #3.

convertedpatsfan · May 7, 2016

I.M. Fletcher said:
Thanks for trading him to us then instead if picking him yourselves.

I totally forgot it was Oakland we traded with to jump the Ravens. Great point.

That ended up being Lamarr Houston and Travis Goethel. Another Patriots link: Houston was the idiot who hurt himself celebrating a sack of Jimmy G while trailing by 25 late in the 4th.

ViperGTS · May 7, 2016

Love the average stats. Hands, routes basically blocking too.

Lol. How'd that work out?

DarrylS · May 9, 2016

Raiders NFL Draft Notes.. Gronk projected to be #2 Tight End...

The Raiders Draft Evaluations Leaked for 2010.. they had Gronk as a #2 tight end...

Interesting takes on Earl Thomas, Dez Bryant, Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen and Demaryus Thomas...

Raiders' NFL Draft Evaluations On Rob Gronkowski, Sam Bradford And More Leaked Online

Fencer · May 9, 2016

Also says "Best all around player in the draft" -- which turned out to be true.

realtime · May 9, 2016

To be fair, I don't think they were saying he was "a" number 2 TE. They were saying he would step in as #2 on their existing depth chart behind Zach Miller, who had been a high 2nd round pick himself and was the team's best receiver at the time.

patchick · May 9, 2016

DarrylS said:
The Raiders Draft Evaluations Leaked for 2010.. they had Gronk as a #2 tight end...

It feels funny to defend the Raiders, but: they had Zach Miller, their recent #38 overall pick, coming off a solid 66-catch, 805-yard season. Projecting any rookie as #2 for them was reasonable, and they had Gronk as their #1 TE prospect in the best TE class ever. Sounds like pretty darned good scouting, actually.

Edit: realtime beat me to it in real time, I see!

RobertWeathers · May 9, 2016

realtime said:
To be fair, I don't think they were saying he was "a" number 2 TE. They were saying he would step in as #2 on their existing depth chart behind Zach Miller, who had been a high 2nd round pick himself and was the team's best receiver at the time.

Yea thats how I read it as well.

Gronk played about 75% of the snaps as a rookie here and it would have been a matter of time in 2010 until he took over the TE1 role from Miller. Not a knock on Miller but it's Gronk we are talking about.

DarrylS · May 9, 2016

patchick said:
It feels funny to defend the Raiders, but: they had Zach Miller, their recent #38 overall pick, coming off a solid 66-catch, 805-yard season. Projecting any rookie as #2 for them was reasonable, and they had Gronk as their #1 TE prospect in the best TE class ever. Sounds like pretty darned good scouting, actually.

Edit: realtime beat me to it in real time, I see!

Do not disagree, it just is an interesting take on how teams evaluate players.. no mentioning of his penchant to party, for example...

I imagined a more sophisticated, lengthy assessment..

ausbacker · May 9, 2016

Imagine how good he could be if his hands were above average!

1960Pats · May 9, 2016

Gronk's draft evaluation was pretty much spot on.
- Good physical build
- Best all around player in the draft
- Good blocker (physical) at the POA
- Does not go down easy after the catch
- Did not play in 2008 due to back injury
- Good scheme fit, all around TE

Scanning down the article and the other evaluations showed some pretty keen insight into the players available.
The TE rankings had Gronk, Jermaine Gresham, Hernandez and Jimmy Graham.
Dez Bryant was called a possible beast.
For WR's they also had Eric Decker, Jacoby Ford, Emmanuel Sanders & Antonio Brown ranked up there. They even had Brandon LaFell 8th on the list.
They also had Tim Tebow well down the list of QBs.

With accurate evaluations like that they should have been more successful. Unfortunately for them I put a 25 year curse on the Raiders in 2001 and they won't be able to win anything until 2026 at the earliest.

letekro · May 9, 2016

1960Pats said:
Gronk's draft evaluation was pretty much spot on.
- Good physical build
- Best all around player in the draft
- Good blocker (physical) at the POA
- Does not go down easy after the catch
- Did not play in 2008 due to back injury
- Good scheme fit, all around TE

Scanning down the article and the other evaluations showed some pretty keen insight into the players available.
The TE rankings had Gronk, Jermaine Gresham, Hernandez and Jimmy Graham.
Dez Bryant was called a possible beast.
For WR's they also had Eric Decker, Jacoby Ford, Emmanuel Sanders & Antonio Brown ranked up there. They even had Brandon LaFell 8th on the list.
They also had Tim Tebow well down the list of QBs.

With accurate evaluations like that they should have been more successful. Unfortunately for them I put a 25 year curse on the Raiders in 2001 and they won't be able to win anything until 2026 at the earliest.

They looked pretty frisky last year when they finally got decent QB play.

Big-T · May 9, 2016

Look at the TE rankings...4 of the top 15 either played for the Patriots or are currently on the roster:

#1 Gronk
#3 Hernandez
#11 Hooman
#12 Harbor

archstanton543 · May 9, 2016

Cool story, bro.

1960Pats · May 9, 2016

letekro said:
They looked pretty frisky last year when they finally got decent QB play.

The only time they were even close to winning was in the first year of my curse, 2002, when they were clobbered (48-21) in the SB by the vaunted NFL machine from Tampa Bay. Since then they've averaged 4.8 wins per season over a 13 year span.

IllegalContact · May 9, 2016

DarrylS said:
Do not disagree, it just is an interesting take on how teams evaluate players.. no mentioning of his penchant to party, for example...

I imagined a more sophisticated, lengthy assessment..

ya, well, they don't mention his work ethic, either.......

why? because the report was based on the scout watching a couple of games and since TE was not a need due to Miller, they did the basic research on him as they had no plans to draft him

Froob · May 9, 2016

Can we use this as proof that everyone thought Gronk would be great and can discredit Belichick for the pick?

Palm Beach Pats Fan · May 9, 2016

DarrylS said:
I imagined a more sophisticated, lengthy assessment..

Well, at that time the owner was in the habit of throwing out the scouting report anyway, and just drafting the guy with the fastest 40-yd dash time

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