Garoppolo is the last piece of the puzzle

It depends on levels of how good Jimmy G. is.

If Jimmy shows he is bad you get nothing.
If Jimmy shows he is okay then you get very little and why trade him? Better to keep a solid backup than a get a 5th or a 6th.
If Jimmy Shows he is pretty good AND Brady looks like he has more than next year left (so he needs to show n0 decline this year) then you can trade Jimmy for a 2nd or 1st maybe.
If Jimmy shows he can be a top QB then you keep him and extend him. Find a way to fit him in. However this makes it much harder to win with Brady cause that is a lot of money to tie up in QBs. Though the smart thing to do if that is the case is trade Brady I would hate to see it happen and personally could not bring myself to do it if i had the choice.

Jimmy G has his chance here. Lets see if he will take advantage of it.

denverpatsfan said:

How many 1st round picks did the team get for Cassel after he went 11-5? 0? I thought so. Even if JG plays well they won't get more than a 3rd round pick for him. If Brady plays after 40 it will truly be uncharted territory for an elite QB. 4 more years would be wildly optimistic. Enjoy it while you can!

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For all we knew Brady missing 4 games might be the best thing for the team and him. I would not compare Brady to Manning injury or body wise but look at what Manning was able to do after getting some rest. He was not amazing but much improved.

Brady only needing to play in 15 games might serve the Pats better at this point to be totally honest. Knowing his age no matter how well you take care of yourself that is a lot to ask of someone. For all we know it may turn into a reason why we win this year.

PatriotsPimp136 said:

Jimmy G has his chance here. Lets see if he will take advantage of it.

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I wouldn't wrote Brady off In terms of playing the whole season just yet, he's still fighting.

PatsFanSince74 said:

Can we please give Jimmy G a chance to show what he can do when it's "for real?"

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Disagreed, because that means #12 is sitting. I can't wish for that. Certainly not yet.

PittPatriot said:

We have a replacement in house?
I feel like I am missing something with Brissett. He is an option QB who some scouts said "lacks instincts." I never knew he existed until he was drafted.

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Brissett is not an option QB. He is drop back type. But he definitely can run and hard to tackle.

1) The team and Brady have committed to each other through 2017. After that, everyone will re-assess.

2) We have a trusted backup through 2017, as PLANNED.

3) We now have someone who could be the 2017 backup, or not.

4) In the next offseason, the team will decide whether to go forward with both backups. There are lots and lots of choices, depending on the team's evaluation of the three quarterbacks AFTER THE SEASON. Brady and the team could decide that he has 1-2 years left after this one, which would make it important to make a decision on Garappolo and Brissett. If neither is our future QB, then we might draft someone else.

5) This evaluation will take place every year until Brady retires. The goal is to be better prepared than Denver is.

@mgteich Just curious if you agree with Rich Hill's assessment on Brissett

When the New England Patriots made N.C. State quarterback Jacoby Brissett the 91st overall pick of the 2016 Draft, I was confused because he didn't fit the Patriots offense.

Back-up quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo was marketed as Tom Brady Lite in the draft due to his quick passing motion and the fact that he dedicated his entire high school and college career to mimicking Brady's techniques and ability. The idea was for Garoppolo to either be the heir to Brady, or at least provide a similar enough style of game that the offense wouldn't have to change if Brady were unable to play.

Brissett is on the other side of the spectrum. He doesn't always make the quickest decisions, he struggles when under pressure, and he hasn't shown the ability to throw the ball more than 10 yards down the field- and he was inaccurate on passes inside 10 yards. He's a project in the truest sense of the word.

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Chiuba E. Obele said:

@mgteich Just curious if you agree with Rich Hill's assessment on Brissett

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The assessment is reasonable, given just how bad his team was, and the situations he needed to deal with as a quarterback.

There are FOUR people who apparently like Brissett: Weis, Parcells, Belichick and Josh. For me, this kind of support is as good as it gets. He may not have the career of the first pick of this draft, or he might.

The Gr8est said:

If reports of the the Browns being close to drafting Garoppolo in the 1st round instead of Manziel are accurate, then how are hopes of a 1st rounder wildly optomistic?

If JG plays well in lieu of Brady and is healthy, them I expect there will be competition for JG should the Pats be willing to trade him and a 1st is not unrealistic at all.

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Because the Browns nor any other team drafted him in the first. Let's face it, the Browns have been dysfunctional for some time and frankly, they haven't had a clue for a while.

james87654 said:

jimmy g is our aaron rodgers

he is the future

we need to support him and have his back

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If Garoppolo was our Aaron Rodgers he would be the starting QB next year and Brady would be gone. Rodgers was only behind Farve for 3 season.

Rodgers was also a first round pick who was in consideration for #1 overall, is more athletic than Garoppolo and has twice the arm strength.

Other than that you are totally on the money with this one.

mgteich said:

1) The team and Brady have committed to each other through 2017. After that, everyone will re-assess.

2) We have a trusted backup through 2017, as PLANNED.

3) We now have someone who could be the 2017 backup, or not.

4) In the next offseason, the team will decide whether to go forward with both backups. There are lots and lots of choices, depending on the team's evaluation of the three quarterbacks AFTER THE SEASON. Brady and the team could decide that he has 1-2 years left after this one, which would make it important to make a decision on Garappolo and Brissett. If neither is our future QB, then we might draft someone else.

5) This evaluation will take place every year until Brady retires. The goal is to be better prepared than Denver is.

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Brady is signed through 2019. They extended him earlier this offseason.

Tom Brady

I wouldnt get too jiggy ove Brissett

8 years ago, the Pats used a 3rd on O'Connell........just sayin.....he was gone pretty fast

Brady6 said:

Brady is signed through 2019. They extended him earlier this offseason.

Tom Brady

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That means very little. Brady and the team can part company after 2017.

IllegalContact said:

I wouldnt get too jiggy ove Brissett

8 years ago, the Pats used a 3rd on O'Connell........just sayin.....he was gone pretty fast

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If doesn't look good, another will be here in his place.

IllegalContact said:

I wouldnt get too jiggy ove Brissett

8 years ago, the Pats used a 3rd on O'Connell........just sayin.....he was gone pretty fast

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They also used a 3rd on Ryan Mallett, as well.

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If doesn't look good, another will be here in his place.

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I agree with both of these posters' statements. I wouldn't get too excited over the Brissett pick for obvious reasons, but it's also good to see them addressing the position, where they'll continue to try and draft the right fit.

mgteich said:

That means very little. Brady and the team can part company after 2017.

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I'd split the difference on that. $14m in dead money would be a big donut for the Pats to eat for 2018 and it would even be tough to move in trade, because if Tom had played to a level that made moving on from him obvious and desirable to NE (but somehow also not bad enough for him to retire) then his trade value would also see a significant reduction. I think the extension guarantees he's here through 2018 (not necessarily 2019) based on cap hits, and of course TBD and reevaluated at that point.

I trust TB12 to make any such discussion irrelevant. Dude is nuts. The last game this guy played he almost single-handedly willed them to a win with a RB who retired 6 years ago, an OL that could embarrass a college QB, against a defense that some touted amongst the best ever based on their playoff performance. And in most topics that touch on the discussion here you'd think we're talking a crotchety old man who was limping onto the field like a hapless moron. "oooh but you can't give up Garoppolo!!!" Of course you ****ing can. If he wants to take less money to hang out and start in 2022 for Matt Patricia's first NEP team, great, I'd love to have him. If not, oh well, next man up. Looking at you Brisket!

james87654 said:

jimmy g is our aaron rodgers

he is the future

we need to support him and have his back

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really aaron rodgers? based on what preseason?

long distance said:

Can we please give Jimmy G some credit here. We are lucky to have him.

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credit for what? he hasn't done anything yet.

I wish Jimmy G was our future, I really like him and what he can bring, but he's more likely trade-bait. Jimmy G being the future was a narrative of Tom having an off year with AD and KT being two of the top targets in 2013.

Tom hasn't showed any sign of declining. He had **** for an OL in 2015 (Solder, Vollmer, Cannon were all out, Stork on PUP, all guards missed time) and all of Lewis, Blount, Gronk, Edelman, and Amendola missed multiple games with injury, and for a good portion of the season Brady was still on pace for shattering his own (and Manning's) regular season records.

Everyone is so quick to think that Tom is the catalyst for everything, it doesn't matter if you're the GOAT or nobody, it's hard to succeed if the rest of the team isn't on your page. Give the guy an OL he'll make up for a lack of skill players. Give the guy skill players he'll make up for the lack of an OL.

Give him both? Watch some of early 2015. Not even close to defensible. In October we were easily the SB champs, a few weeks later attrition made us runner ups.

Tom isn't done, probably has 3-5 more "prime" years if he wants them. Jimmy G will be very good, unfortunately and maybe detrimental to us, it won't be for us. If he was drafted in 2017 or 2018 he's probably our future. Sadly he came out of college a few seasons too soon for us to have him as our star.