Pats Decline G Jonathan Cooper's 5th year Option

RobertWeathers · May 2, 2016

Pats Decline Cooper's 5th year Option

Oh well.

That thins out the G blockade a little..

Was hoping the raw talent would surface here.

Bradyking12 · May 2, 2016

Because it would cost them around $11 Million if they did, when the season has yet to start and we don't know what he's made of

FCB02062 · May 2, 2016

So does this mean they traded Chandler Jones for a guard/maybe swing tackle and a WR coming off an acl?????

BelichickFan · May 2, 2016

He's still here this year, that option is for next year.

RobertWeathers · May 2, 2016

Bradyking12 said:
Because it would cost them around $11 Million if they did, when the season has yet to start and we don't know what he's made of

Clearly they weren't going to pick it up but mildly surprised they didn't work out some kind of a 2yr deal.

Like I said, oh well.

The Gr8est · May 2, 2016

robertweathers said:
Clearly they weren't going to pick it up but mildly surprised they didn't work out some kind of a 2yr deal.

Like I said, oh well.

I think it's too early for that. I'm hopeful that he'll do well and they can work something out, but no one is paying Jonathan Cooper $11 million next year based on past performance.

This announcement just makes official what we already knew, and what the Pats said when they traded for him.

IllegalContact · May 2, 2016

FCB02062 said:
So does this mean they traded Chandler Jones for a guard/maybe swing tackle and a WR coming off an acl?????

And 8M in cap space

BelichickFan · May 2, 2016

robertweathers said:
Clearly they weren't going to pick it up but mildly surprised they didn't work out some kind of a 2yr deal.

Like I said, oh well.

They can still do a new deal before he becomes a free agent next year. This means nothing except that, short of a new deal, he'll be a FA next year. But it doesn't prohibit a new deal.

RobertWeathers · May 2, 2016

The Gr8est said:
I think it's too early for that. I'm hopeful that he'll do well and they can work something out, but no one is paying Jonathan Cooper $11 million next year based on past performance.

This announcement just makes official what we already knew, and what the Pats said when they traded for him.

Yea maybe I'm just a generous guy at heart

Froob · May 2, 2016

Am I not understanding how this all works? I thought the 5th year was ONLY guaranteed for injury so they could have that extra year and just cut him in March when it likely doesn't work. Are they worried he could get hurt and knowing there's almost noway he's worth that much that they don't want to chance something major happening to him?

50-yard-line · May 2, 2016

Why in the world would they pick it up? That's a chunk of change for ANY guard. Even if Cooper lives up to his expectations this year, are you paying him 11m next year??????

Means nothing. Let's see what he can do. Let him win the starting LG job here and make Scar go wow, then lock him down for three or four years with an honest contract.

convertedpatsfan · May 2, 2016

Froob said:
Am I not understanding how this all works? I thought the 5th year was ONLY guaranteed for injury so they could have that extra year and just cut him in March when it likely doesn't work. Are they worried he could get hurt and knowing there's almost noway he's worth that much that they don't want to chance something major happening to him?

I'm pretty sure if an injury-prone, struggling guard got hurt and paid $11M by the Patriots, Logan Mankins would destroy Patriot Place and Gillette with an axe.

NG Pats Fan · May 2, 2016

I hope trading Chandler won't hurt our pass rush, chandler gets underrated sometimes. He was our leader. Our heart and soul.

dtbrks · May 2, 2016

I think this was expected

convertedpatsfan · May 2, 2016

NG Pats Fan said:
I hope trading Chandler won't hurt our pass rush, chandler gets underrated sometimes. He was our leader. Our heart and soul.

Rusty Griswold · May 2, 2016

robertweathers said:
Pats Decline Cooper's 5th year Option

Oh well.

That thins out the G blockade a little..

Was hoping the raw talent would surface here.

This means very little. Teams structure the rookie option year with the big money as a way to use it as retainer of sorts to string it out as a way to make sure they want to extend the player into their 2nd deal.

This is a prove it deal for Cooper, and if Scar works his magic, the kid will earn it and then they;ll quietly talk extension, or let him go to FA, or he's done.

I wouldn't worry. BB has the leverage and either Scar is more of a legend and fixes this guy or Cooper is done in the NFL.

RxJock1120 · May 2, 2016

I don't think anyone is surprised the Pats didn't pick up Cooper's $11M option, the surprise is that they declined it today. I just thought that they had a lot more time to make that choice. Again, it should be emphasized that there is a snowball's chance in hell he would have played up to the level of an $11M guard, just that the Pats tend to take their time in making these decisions. If Cooper has a crazy good year, the fifth year option would have been some leverage, but I guess they decided otherwise.

mgteich · May 2, 2016

How Much Of Cooper's Compensation Is Guaranteed By the Patriots?

Reading Miguel's numbers, it seems that he has a $675 salary and a $1.7M bonus (due the 5th day of Training Camp), all guaranteed.

Sciz · May 3, 2016

How Much Of Cooper's Compensation Is Guaranteed By the Patriots?

The Pats will be responsible for that bonus unless they trade him before the fifth day of training camp. There is offset language, so if they cut him and he signs with another team, then my understanding is that the Pats would get a cap credit (the full $675k if he's on another team's roster for all 17 weeks) in 2017 for the salary that he earns from another team in 2016.

manxman2601 · May 3, 2016

RxJock1120 said:
I don't think anyone is surprised the Pats didn't pick up Cooper's $11M option, the surprise is that they declined it today. I just thought that they had a lot more time to make that choice. Again, it should be emphasized that there is a snowball's chance in hell he would have played up to the level of an $11M guard, just that the Pats tend to take their time in making these decisions. If Cooper has a crazy good year, the fifth year option would have been some leverage, but I guess they decided otherwise.

They had to choose yesterday didn't they? I'm sure I read that it was the deadline. Certainly a number of other decisions were made about 5th year options yesterday.

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