2016 Draft Day 3: Rounds 4-7 Thread

Look for trades today. Caserio seemed to signal that at his press conference. I doubt they make 8 picks today.

At least I won't have to stay up until 3 am to see the Pats pick today.

Feel like we could still be looking at OT, RB also seems like the obvious choice. Might be a WR in there as well, and that could have interesting implications for Amendola. I also think another DT isn't out of the question. And let's not forget LB.

All in all, I have no real clue.

Prospects we've had contact with that are still available today. So you've got some names to keep an eye out for.


Patriots Draft Contacts

OV - Official Visit
PW- Private Workout
CI - Combine Interview
SB - Senior Bowl Contact
U - Unofficial
PD - Possible Pro Day contact

QB

Kevin Hogan, Stanford - SB
Jake Rudock, Michigan - PW
Joel Stave, Wisconsin - OV and PW


RB

Glenn Gronkowski, Kansas State - SB, CI
Dan Vitale, Northwestern - CI, PD (Caserio)
Alex Collins, Arkansas - CI
Jordan Howard, Indiana - CI
Kelvin Taylor, Florida - CI
Tyler Ervin, San Jose - PW
Chris Swain, Navy - U (Reiss reports we have 'met' with Swain multiple times)
Brandon Wilds, S. Carolina - U (Pauline reports we have 'met' with him)
Daniel Lasco, California - PW
Devontae Booker, Utah - OV
Jonathan Williams, Arkansas - CI, OV
Kenneth Dixon, La. Tech - OV



WR

Pharoh Cooper, S Carolina - CI, OV
Jalin Marshall, Ohio State - CI
Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa - OV
Byron Marshall, Oregon - PW
Chris Moore, Cincinnati - PD (Caserio)
Mekale McKay, Cincinnati - PD (Caserio)
Johnny Holton, Cincinnati - PD (Caserio)
Kolby Listenbee, TCU - OV
Devin Fuller, UCLA - PW
Demarcus Ayers, Houston - PW
Cody Core, Ole Miss - PW
Amir Carlisle, Notre Dame - PW
Marquez North, Tennessee - PW
Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia - OV
Keenan Reynolds, Navy - PW (BB plus others)
Alonzo Russell, Toledo - PW
Jay Lee, Baylor - PW
Moritz Boehringer, Germany - PW
Devin Lucien, Arizona State - PW
Roger Lewis, Bowling Green - OV or PW
Daniel Braverman, W Michigan - PW





TE

David Morgan III, Texas-San Antonio - PW
Stephen Anderson, California - PW
Ben Brauenecker, Harvard - PW
Bryce Williams, E Carolina - PW, OV

OL

Cole Toner, Harvard - U, PD
Kyle Murphy, Stanford - SB, U
Joe Haeg, N Dakota State - SB
Jerald Hawkins, LSU - CI, PD (Dante)
Brandon Shell, S Carolina - CI
Vadal Alexander, LSU - PD (Dante)
Damian Love, Alabama State - PW
Torian White, Hampton - U (Reported interest)
Evan Boehm, Missouri - PD (Dante)
Connor McGovern, Missouri - PD (Dante)
John Theus, Georgia - PD
Spencer Drango, Baylor - PW
Landon Turner, PD (Dante)
David Hedelin, Purdue - PW (Dante?)
Joe Dahl, Washington St., PW
Clay DeBord, EWU - PW or OV

DL

Hassan Ridgeway, Texas - CI
Sterling Bailey, Georgia - PD (Belichick, Patricia)
Willie Henry, Michigan - PD (DL Coach?)
Pat McNeil, Middle Tenessee - PW

LB

Kentrell Brothers, Missouri - SB
Dadi Nicholas, Virginia Tech - CI, PW (DL coach)
Alex McCalister, Florida - CI
CJ Johnson, Ole Miss - CI
De'Vondre Cambell, Minnesota - PD
Theirin ****ran, Minnesota - PD
Dillon Lee, Alabama - PD(Belichick)
Stephen Weatherly, Vanderbilt - PD (Caserio)?
Desmond Morgan, Michigan - PD
Steven Daniels, Boston College - OV
Shaq Petteway, WVU - PW


CB

DJ White, Georgia Tech - CI
Blake Countess, Auburn - PD
Ryan Smith, N. Carolina State - PW
Kalan Reed, S. Miss - PW (Caserio)
Taveze Calhoun, Miss St. - OV
Jonathan Jones, Auburn - OV

S

Deon Bush, Miami
Miles Killebrew, S. Utah - PW or OV
Elijah Shumate, Notre Dame - OV
DJ Hunter, Marshall - PW

Have to figure we're taking an RB today.

I imagine one of those 6th round picks will be used to draft Keenan Reynolds.

Manx - out of that list, who are your "oh really" / wtf types that you were surprised the Pats showed interest .

Marshall strong safety DJ Hunter has had some serious issues in his time. Assaulted a former girlfriend in '09, and missed out on a scholarship to Tennessee when he shot someone in the face with a BB gun. So he's obviously a long shot to be picked, although by all reports, he's turned his life around significantly.

But, I just want to draw your attention to the fact that he has one of the 10 fastest 10 yard splits on record apparently at 1.45 seconds. That's at 205lbs. For comparison's sake, Tavon Austin ran a 1.45 split at 174lbs. That he's from Marshall makes him a little more interesting. BB seems to like athletic guys from Marshall.

DaBruinz said:

Manx - out of that list, who are your "oh really" types that you were surprised the Pats showed interest .

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Definitely Alex McCalister of Florida. Very undersized pass rusher at 235 and had character concerns. We spoke to a number of undersized Edge guys at the combine. I was surprised at the late interest in late round TEs too mainly because I didn't think there was much of a need. Tennessee WR Marquez North was another. Wasn't productive at Tennessee at all but, he has some nice size and athletic traits.

Any of the WR on that list fit into the tall, fast, decent route running and hands category?

DaBruinz said:

Any of the WR on that list fit into the tall, fast, decent route running and hands category?

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Devien Lucien might have the best hands in the draft. He's 6 feet and half an inch and ran a 4.49. Chris Moore of Cincinnati is 6'1", only ran a 4.53 but has good hands, cones from a pro style offense and Caserio went to the Cincy pro day to work out the WRs. Moore also had a very good 3-cone.

manxman2601 said:

Devien Lucien might have the best hands in the draft. He's 6 feet and half an inch and ran a 4.49. Chris Moore of Cincinnati is 6'1", only ran a 4.53 but has good hands, cones from a pro style offense and Caserio went to the Cincy pro day to work out the WRs. Moore also had a very good 3-cone.

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Where is Lucien projected round wise?

DaBruinz said:

Where is Lucien projected round wise?

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6-7, but that's not solid. He only really got any attention very late in the process. He could go earlier. He's good, but he's not very explosive. His hands are outstanding though. One guy I really like is move TE Stephen Anderson of Cal. He's only 230lbs, doesn't really block, but he gets open so quickly for a guy of his size. I'd love to see them bring him in to compete in camp, probably with AJ Derby. 5th-6th for him.

Manx have you seen or heard any connections between Pats and "Hollywood" Higgins? My WR blinky

Luxusdk said:

Manx have you seen or heard any connections between Pats and "Hollywood" Higgins? My WR blinky

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I like him too, but no I'm afraid. Doesn't mean anything though, I never heard about Dante working out Thuney.

Need a goddamn RB.

Trade a couple of the 93 6th rounders to get Booker

Is there an ILB in that group you listed that fits the Pats mold? 6'0 - 6'2 240-250 lbs with good lateral movement and play recognition and solid tackler?

robertweathers said:

Need a goddamn RB.

Trade a couple of the 93 6th rounders to get Booker

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What's the skinny on Booker? Character issues?

DaBruinz said:

Is there an ILB in that group you listed that fits the Pats mold? 6'0 - 6'2 240-250 lbs with good lateral movement and play recognition and solid tackler?

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Not really. There are some OK linebackers available that aren't on that list, but there's not much too excite. Travis Feeney of Washington is super explosive but undersized, Eric Striker is super productive but undersized and unathletic. Linebackers don't excite me this year. Joshua Perry of Ohio State and Kentrell Brothers of Missouri are probably the two best available.

One that does interest me though is BC's Steven Daniels. He's a run stopper only like Spikes, but he's a seriously, seriously good run stuffer. Blows up offensive linemen in the run game. I'd be very happy with him as a late rounder or UDFA.

DaBruinz said:

What's the skinny on Booker? Character issues?

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Coming back from a knee injury and scored an 8 on his wonderlic, 15 on the retest

JMC00 said:

Coming back from a knee injury and scored an 8 on his wonderlic, 15 on the retest

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Not sure how big a factor the wonderlic is for RBs.

What sort of knee injury? ACL?

DaBruinz said:

What's the skinny on Booker? Character issues?

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Injury history mainly