Cardinals shopping WR Michael Floyd for a pick?

Cousins,
I am depressed about this Brady crap and yes the under/over on how much he wins in a defamation suit will hit the roof. I want to see the blood of the other 31 to pay for this. How? Impact players right now never mind this development bull doodoo! for a player ripening few years from now. Tom does not have those. Push the chips into the center of the table.

I hope Bill picks up on this. The Cards are rumored to be shopping WR Michael Floyd for a pick. Have #61 back Bruce and let's get this done. Whether it is Tom or Jimmy G, Michael Floyd makes the Pats better.......NOW......, not three years from now which is about the term a Draft pick blossoms.

Knowing we are going to search for a WR in this Draft and knowing the Pats are maybe one of the worse Teams in the NFL to Draft WRS, is there seriously anybody on this forum who would not do this? We know Bill is more adept at trading for a WR. He is 27 years old and had 5 100 yard games last year.

Could Michael Floyd be trade bait for a draft day move?

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Trade a 2nd for Chandler Jones and then trade him for Michael Floyd?

No I wouldn't trade a 2nd in order to pay Floyd $7.2M for one year.

Froob said:

Trade a 2nd for Chandler Jones and then trade him for Michael Floyd?

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Not exactly and we did get a player in Cooper. I don't think a #3 (#91) gets it done but I could be wrong. Yeah I guess you could say Jonathon Cooper and Michael Floyd for Chandler Jones. I am O.K. with that.

Of course third round would be better.
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mgteich said:

No I wouldn't trade a 2nd in order to pay Floyd $7.2M for one year.

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Sometimes, the devil is always in the details.

mgteich said:

No I wouldn't trade a 2nd in order to pay Floyd $7.2M for one year.

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The Cards have to resign Jones to an extension, why can't we for a 27 year old WR who is hitting his prime? Absolutely! Yep in a second I get him. Danny is over 30 and Edelman is getting there and is a health risk the way he plays....correct? Nate Washington is 33. Dobson is a bust. Hogan could be an answer but without a doubt (see Pats visits) we are in the market for a WR and this WR class is not that stout.

No brainer

Not saying #61 but if they took #91 much better.

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I wonder if the Pats will be interested in this. From what I've read, they should have a decent amount of cap space open up next year. Understandably, they do have to work out deals for Hightower, Collins, and Butler but Floyd, if motivated and healthy, would offer a skill set that no other WR on this team possesses. I suppose it comes down to what he feels like he would command in FA.

mgteich said:

No I wouldn't trade a 2nd in order to pay Floyd $7.2M for one year.

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Danny is a back up. He is great here but we are paying a back up for One Year $5mm and $6mm next year.$7.2mm for a #1 WR is pretty cheap...just sayin.

5 100 yard games and 6 TDs?

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Froob said:

Trade a 2nd for Chandler Jones and then trade him for Michael Floyd?

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So wouldn't it basically be Jones for Cooper and Floyd then? It's an intriguing trade.

a contract would need to be worked out, and if the cardinals could not work one out with him, I doubt the pats would

I'll pass......thx

Maybe if they didn't just sign Hogan.

Also, not sure I understand where you're getting this "Tom doesn't have impact players now" notion. Tom is throwing to the greatest TE of all time, another top 5 TE, one of the best all-around WR in the league, and a solid supporting cast in Amendola/Hogan/Lewis.

There are just too many other areas to commit $$ when the receiving core is already set.

It's pretty clear if they are using him as trade bait then they are looking for at minimum higher pick than the one they gave the Pats which the Pats don't have. So really that should end that.

mgteich said:

No I wouldn't trade a 2nd in order to pay Floyd $7.2M for one year.

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Marcus Cannon is making $3.4mm. Put that is perspective. Cut him and there is 1/2 of that.
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DW Toys said:

Danny is a back up. He is great here but we are paying a back up for One Year $5mm and $6mm next year.

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Just because Amendola's skill-set overlaps with Edelman's doesn't make him a backup. The two share far too many reps together to make such a claim. If you want to say he's replaceable? Ok, sure. But that's not a backup.

Dorito Dink said:

Maybe if they didn't just sign Hogan.

Also, not sure I understand where you're getting this "Tom doesn't have impact players now" notion. Tom is throwing to the greatest TE of all time, another top 5 TE, one of the best all-around WR in the league, and a solid supporting cast in Amendola/Hogan/Lewis.

There are just too many other areas to commit $$ when the receiving core is already set.

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Beg to differ on WR Cousin. WR core set? Nyet on that IMO. They have brought in or have visited with 24 WR prior to the Draft. They pay money to get those done. Elaborate smoke screens are nice to play with but 24 is smoke plus fire. You have two great WR who are always banged up in Danny and JE. You have a 33 year old Vet maybe playing for his last Team. You have a nice pick up in Hogan and a flop in Dobson. Now you want to get a young kid WR Draftee who has a 17% chance to make the Team as about league average after the third year? A first round WR obviously has a higher percentage of sticking but we are at the bottom of the second round here folks.

Versus Floyd?

Patriots workout Western Michigan receiver Daniel Braverman

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Shockt327 said:

Just because Amendola's skill-set overlaps with Edelman's doesn't make him a backup. The two share far too many reps together to make such a claim. If you want to say he's replaceable? Ok, sure. But that's not a backup.

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Exactly. Since 2007 there's always been a 5'10" white guy catching lots of passes in NE, and somehow that became an official position to a lot of people. It's like unless Tom could find a way to throw the ball to both of them on the same play people forget that they play together, so only one of them is any good.

Floyd? Eh...I think he's a good player but as far as this trade idea goes it kinda seems like if that was a fit for them moving him (and his salary) to NE that coulda/woulda/shoulda been addressed when the Jones trade happened. Jones was their most easily and necessarily movable trade piece and they happily gave him up for a pick and a project, not a player the same age with a roughly equivalent salary.

Shockt327 said:

Just because Amendola's skill-set overlaps with Edelman's doesn't make him a backup. The two share far too many reps together to make such a claim. If you want to say he's replaceable? Ok, sure. But that's not a backup.

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Would you say Amendola is a starter on this Team? I like Danny as much as anyone, but if LaFell and JE were healthy last year, Danny would not have starts on his stat sheet in 2015.Is that a fair statement?
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Gronk said:

Exactly. Since 2007 there's always been a 5'10" white guy catching lots of passes in NE, and somehow that became an official position to a lot of people. It's like unless Tom could find a way to throw the ball to both of them on the same play people forget that they play together, so only one of them is any good.

Floyd? Eh...I think he's a good player but as far as this trade idea goes it kinda seems like if that was a fit for them moving him (and his salary) to NE that coulda/woulda/shoulda been addressed when the Jones trade happened. Jones was their most easily and necessarily movable trade piece and they happily gave him up for a pick and a project, not a player the same age with a roughly equivalent salary.

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Fair retort but honestly answer this. The last quarter of the AFC Championship game, do you want Keeshan Martin.....that is Keeshan Matin on that last ditch drive for cryin out tears!!! and a very ineffective LaFell who demanded single coverage...... or Floyd? Answer honestly. Floyd and Gronk with JE underneath would maybe have been the difference.
We will never know if Floyd was even brought up. Maybe the Cards do see someone they want to move up for like a rumored QB (see Jimmy G we sought here) like a Cook, Prescott or Hackenburhg to back up Palmer as suggested and they need a #2 to get there. So now the curtain is pulled back on Floyd.
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Gronk said:

Exactly. Since 2007 there's always been a 5'10" white guy catching lots of passes in NE, and somehow that became an official position to a lot of people. It's like unless Tom could find a way to throw the ball to both of them on the same play people forget that they play together, so only one of them is any good.

Floyd? Eh...I think he's a good player but as far as this trade idea goes it kinda seems like if that was a fit for them moving him (and his salary) to NE that coulda/woulda/shoulda been addressed when the Jones trade happened. Jones was their most easily and necessarily movable trade piece and they happily gave him up for a pick and a project, not a player the same age with a roughly equivalent salary.

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Your second round WR Draft pick will cost $2mm-$3mm anyway.
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DW Toys said:

Marcus Cannon is making $3.4mm. Put that is perspective. Cut him and there is 1/2 of that.
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You're playing both sides here. Are you advocating an extension for Floyd or not? If he's a one year rental, then that sounds like awful value for a second round pick. If he's getting an extension, then Cannon's $3.4 million is pretty close to irrelevant when we're talking about how to pay for (hypothetically) a $40 million extension.