NFL Owners wants Goodell to reduce 4 game suspension and end Deflategate once and for all.

Owners want deflategate to end. They want goodell to reduce the suspension because it is too much, but believe brady should be punished.

Nope, Brady isnt taking that. They crossed the god damn **** line. Defamation is next I hope.

At this point I would take that. But I know that's not what Brady wants. And that's what matters most.

Take no deal! Goodell will demand an admission of guilt for any reduction. Do not give in to coercion, do not admit guilt to something you aren't guilty of, fight to the wall! F Goodell, F the 32 owners, F the league, and F all the idiot fans who believe TB and the Patriots are cheaters. Where's Fitzy's next GFY video...

F these jealous backstabbing owners.

KDPPatsfan85 said:

Owners want deflategate to end. They want goodell to reduce the suspension because it is too much, but believe brady should be punished.

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Boy, this certainly comes under the rubric of Be Careful What You Wish For. These idiot owners have been trying to take the Patriots down for years and the sneaky, nasty way they chose to accomplish that has come around to bite them in the azz. Hold your ground Tom.

F.ck that. Take it the distance.

I speculated about this yesterday's thread. The questions are:

1) how far are the owners willing to go? Meaning are they willing to order/force the Commish that they don't give a f&^$ about his personal pride, and just negotiate a 1-2 game punishment with no strings attached (i.e. no "admission of guilt"). Or is just an abstract, "Roger, pretty please your holiness, please settle cause I'm sick of hearing about it?"

2) Is Brady willing to do that? Akin to accepting a plea deal for something you didn't do, knowing the odds of him getting his suspension overturned at all are extremely low now. I could see Brady accepting only if he thinks it'll help the team more than him being a "political prisoner" would help the union.

reflexblue said:

Screw that, screw taking any deal other than complete vindication for TB. I listened to pat kirwin say he works for CBS and Brady and the pats are thier top draw, and the network is going to be really angry if brady gets suspended, it will cost them $$$$$$$. Money talks, this is a business and if the networks lose enough money the owners and goodell will hear about it. Its been said that networks are beholden to goddell, it the other way around, the networks are the ones paying billions to broadcast the games. If they start losing enough money calls will be made to resolve this.

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I hope boycotting the first round of the draft will show these networks.

KDPPatsfan85 said:

I hope boycotting the first round of the draft will show these networks.

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Why just the first round?

If Brady got an offer of a game or a large fine for "inadvertent obstruction of the investigation" and nothing more than that, that might be worth considering. (and the word inadvertent being a critical part of it)

Kessler himself pretty much said Brady "could have handled it better" so I think it makes sense. No admission to something he didn't do, and his legacy is intact.

Anything more than that - they can go pound sand.

KDPPatsfan85 said:

I hope boycotting the first round of the draft will show these networks.

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this may be a stupid question...how will they know if we skip watching the draft?

reflexblue said:

Screw that, screw taking any deal other than complete vindication for TB. I listened to pat kirwin say he works for CBS and Brady and the pats are thier top draw, and the network is going to be really angry if brady gets suspended, it will cost them $$$$$$$. Money talks, this is a business and if the networks lose enough money the owners and goodell will hear about it. Its been said that networks are beholden to goddell, it the other way around, the networks are the ones paying billions to broadcast the games. If they start losing enough money calls will be made to resolve this.

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I think NBC is going to be really pissed for their Sunday night opener at Arizona. That had all the makings of a ratings bonanza. But I doubt they have the level of influence you're suspecting though - Goodell does take money into account. NBC would have been pissed over last year's opener too, but apparently it wasn't enough to cause Goodell to change a thing.

Hammer of Thor said:

I think NBC is going to be really pissed for their Sunday night opener at Arizona. That had all the makings of a ratings bonanza. But I doubt they have the level of influence you're suspecting though - Goodell does take money into account. NBC would have been pissed over last year's opener too, but apparently it wasn't enough to cause Goodell to change a thing.

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your right it would have to be more than a couple of games, im taking that post down.

Hammer of Thor said:

I think NBC is going to be really pissed for their Sunday night opener at Arizona. That had all the makings of a ratings bonanza. But I doubt they have the level of influence you're suspecting though - Goodell does take money into account. NBC would have been pissed over last year's opener too, but apparently it wasn't enough to cause Goodell to change a thing.

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NBC has to be furious. That game had the potential to be a barn burner and now we're going to get Palmer vs. Garoppolo.

reflexblue said:

this may be a stupid question...how will they know if we skip watching the draft?

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Lower viewership. The less people that watch, the less commercials will be seen on that network!

KontradictioN said:

NBC has to be furious. That game had the potential to be a barn burner and now we're going to get Palmer vs. Garoppolo.

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I doubt they care. It'll probably have huge ratings anyways from people tuning in to see the Eeeeeeevil Patriots get theirs at the hands of the Cardinals and/or curiosity over how Garoppolo will do.

Brady should get punished no more than the Chargers for stickumgate - $8500 fine (and reimbursement of all of his legal fees)

Sfpat said:

Brady should get punished no more than the Chargers for stickumgate - $8500 fine (and reimbursement of all of his legal fees)

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Well, Chief Justice Katzmann agrees with you - that exact comparison was explicitly in his dissent. Too bad the other two judges didn't see it that way though.

KDPPatsfan85 said:

Owners want deflategate to end. They want goodell to reduce the suspension because it is too much, but believe brady should be punished.

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Screw them! The damage has already been done to Brady and the Pats. I hope Brady wouldn't consider it and goes full speed ahead with the defamation lawsuit the NFL* and Goodell so richly deserve.

The only deal I would consider is a complete exhoneration of the Pats and Brady, the return of the stolen draft picks, penalties to the culpable teams, the Colts in particular, a revisiting of the Rats' tampering penalty in light of the discrepancy between the Rats' slap on the wrist and the loss of draft picks by other teams for the same offense both before and after the Rats' latest offense,


AND AN ADMISSION FROM THE NFL* THAT THE WHOLE DEFLATEGATE ISSUE WAS HANDLED POORLY FROM THE START, AND BECAME A WITCHHUNT!