Your first 3 picks and why

PatsBoy12 · Apr 21, 2016

betterthanthealternative said:
Man, you are SO wrong. What a boneheaded set of picks.
It'll be Safety, tight end, center.
Get your head on straight.

Both of you are wrong. It will be TE, TE, QB

DW Toys · Apr 21, 2016

manxman2601 said:
And then trade him for Justin Gilbert and Josh Gordon.

You can't. Haven't signed my tender.
DW Toys

DW Toys · Apr 21, 2016

Ochmed Jones said:
#60 - CB/safety Davis of Maryland. Tremendous hitter with speed and a blazing 3 cone time. Needs technique help.

#61 - dt hargrave sc state. Knighton and branch are older and on passing downs, this guy is sudden.

#91 - safety/lb killebrew southern Utah. He makes plays and can contribute on special teams until he learns the defense.

#96 - ot haeg nd state. I have lost all faith in cannon and fleming.

Would be a great Draft class. Compliments.
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Ivan · Apr 21, 2016

Using Draft Scout prospect rankings

1) Devontae Booker RB Utah Addressed the one glaring hole offensively, starting RB.

2) Jordan Jenkins OLB Georgia Has the size and athletic ability Belichick requires for the elephant role.

3) Javon Hargreave DT South Carolina Replaces Easely as an interior pass rusher

4) Sean Davis DB Maryland Ryan and Harmon are UFAs after 2016 and Davis brings talent, versatility, and depth to the defensive backs unit.

DW Toys · Apr 21, 2016

manxman2601 said:
60 - Hassan Ridgeway

61 - Le'Raven Clark

91 - Jonathan Williams

96 - Cyrus Jones

alternatively

60 - Hassan Ridgeaway

61 - Sean Davis

91 - Jonathan Williams

96 - Joe Haeg or Kyle Murphy

Isn't Ridgeway about a fifth rounder according to most information? Jonathan Williams has more fumbling issues than Booker or Dixon?
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patsbrasilpatriotas · Apr 21, 2016

Tony2046 said:
1. CB - Hard to find CB's in later rounds and I personally would like to find a possible starting prospect with decent size. Eli Apple for example. 6-1 and decent speed. It's basically a move to find good quality depth.

2. DT/DE - Defense wins championships. Keep up the pressure up front and watch the secondary, with another year under their belt, ruin the QB's day.

3. O line - I expect that the Oline will improve with Fleming and Mason on their second year, without the injury carousel we saw last year and with Scar coming back to right the ship. I would still like to add depth.

IMO, the running game will improve by benefiting from an improved O line. I would not take a RB with one of the top picks.

Edit: An improved O line will give Brady more time to throw. A deep threat would be nice but Brady needs time to throw it in order to take advantage of that threat. Brady getting time to find his 3rd read would be much more beneficial than a deep threat. IMO.

Hard to find? Butler... Sherman... Norman only 3 of the top 5 ...

They shoulg go BPA : OT/WR/DE/LB

tasmlab · Apr 21, 2016

I would be happy if they took 11 OL men. I don't want to see Brady on his back ever again.

Belichick will probably take (just to piss off this board):
- WTF safety nobody wants with the 2nd.
- QB
- Wrestler/LaCrosse player

manxman2601 · Apr 21, 2016

DW Toys said:
Isn't Ridgeway about a fifth rounder according to most information? Jonathan Williams has more fumbling issues than Booker or Dixon?
DW Toys

1. I'd be shocked if Ridgeway makes it past day two.

2. Because Williams didn't play last year it's hard to know whether he just had an off year in '14 fumble wise - he had 5 -or whether it's a chronic problem for him. Regardless, I view him as the 2nd best back in this draft based upon his '14 tape.

zydecochris · Apr 21, 2016

PatsBoy12 said:
Both of you are wrong. It will be TE, TE, QB

Your multiple TE prediction brings back fond memories.

Remember when BB drafted Graham and Watson at TE in the first round in 2002 and then 2004. And then to make it worse, Thomas and Mills as TE and TE/FB in the 3rd and 4th in 2006. I remember the wailing, gnashing of teeth and tearing of shirts going on at Patsfans.com. "I can't believe it!!!" "I'm going to throw my shoe through the TV if he drafts another tight end!!!! AUUGGGGHHHH!!!!".

.....It was a little like the posts about drafting safeties now, only 100 x worse.

Then after all of that carrying on about spending too much draft capital on tight ends we got Gronk (and the Inmate) and the offense was suddenly completely revolutionized, and everybody all realized: "Ohhhh, I guess that was what BB was thinking in drafting all of those Tight Ends".

If he drafts two tight ends I'll just look forward to BB's revolutionary 4 tight end offense.

PatsBoy12 · Apr 21, 2016

zydecochris said:
Your multiple TE prediction brings back fond memories.

Remember when BB drafted Graham and Watson at TE in the first round in 2002 and then 2004. And then to make it worse, Thomas and Mills as TE and TE/FB in the 3rd and 4th in 2006. I remember the wailing, gnashing of teeth and tearing of shirts going on at Patsfans.com. "I can't believe it!!!" "I'm going to throw my shoe through the TV if he drafts another tight end!!!! AUUGGGGHHHH!!!!".

.....It was a little like the posts about drafting safeties now, only 100 x worse.

Then after all of that carrying on about spending too much draft capital on tight ends we got Gronk (and the Inmate) and the offense was suddenly completely revolutionized, and everybody all realized: "Ohhhh, I guess that was what BB was thinking in drafting all of those Tight Ends".

If he drafts two tight ends I'll just look forward to BB's revolutionary 4 tight end offense.

We actually saw a bit of that early in the 2015 season . . . before injuries pretty much changed the way the plays were being called.

manxman2601 · Apr 21, 2016

DW Toys said:
Isn't Ridgeway about a fifth rounder according to most information? Jonathan Williams has more fumbling issues than Booker or Dixon?
DW Toys

Re Ridgeway

CBS - 79
ESPN - 61
NFL - 35.

Tony2046 · Apr 21, 2016

patsbrasilpatriotas said:
Hard to find? Butler... Sherman... Norman only 3 of the top 5 ...

They shoulg go BPA : OT/WR/DE/LB

My novice opinion.

I consider the hit/miss percentage on CB much higher later in the draft than an OL position.

I consider CB generally the toughest NFL position to play besides QB. Btw: Butler and Norman are not top 5 CB's on most lists. Butler is a legitimate #1 CB and is part of a top NFL secondary. Butler and Sherman are rare cases.

With that aside, bust rate % for each round increases dramatically as whole. #1 Pick bust % = < 10. #256 Pick bust % = > 80%.

I think the Patriots needs in order are: DE or DL, OL, CB.

I do not consider WR a top draft need. Although unpopular I think Dobson has a better chance of providing the Patriots a deep threat than a guy picked in the 3rd round. Actually I think Dobson will provide a deep threat this year.

Interesting chart based on 2005 - 2014 Drafts.

Ref: What the stats tell us about drafting positions by round (<<< Link)

JMC00 · Apr 22, 2016

Austin Johnson/Javon Hargrave/Hassan Ridgeway
Sean Davis/Artie Burns/Xavien Howard
Kennth Dixon/Jonathan Williams/Devontae Booker
Jerald Hawkins/Joe Haeg/Kyle Murphy

PATSNUTme · Apr 22, 2016

This is new and could be helpful:
2016 NFL Draft Grades

manxman2601 · Apr 22, 2016

PATSNUTme said:
This is new and could be helpful:
2016 NFL Draft Grades

Nice find.

PATSNUTme · Apr 22, 2016

manxman2601 said:
Nice find.

I could not see any safeties graded on that listing. I've seen in a few ratings that Vonn Bell is dropping into the mid to late 2nd - I don't know why.

Here is another site to play with - you choose the Patriots- the computer makes all the picks for the other teams- you make the picks for the Patriots
Fanspeak's On the Clock NFL Mock Draft Simulator

Tony2046 · Apr 22, 2016

PATSNUTme said:
I could not see any safeties graded on that listing. I've seen in a few ratings that Vonn Bell is dropping into the mid to late 2nd - I don't know why.

Here is another site to play with - you choose the Patriots- the computer makes all the picks for the other teams- you make the picks for the Patriots
Fanspeak's On the Clock NFL Mock Draft Simulator

Not a bad draft.

manxman2601 · Apr 22, 2016

PATSNUTme said:
I could not see any safeties graded on that listing.

Strange onission on their part, especially as they do have one on there. I'm more interested in their description of how they rank players though.

Water Boy · Apr 22, 2016

1. BPA
2. BPA
3. BPA

kennyb · Apr 22, 2016

Shon COLEMAN OT
Devontae BOOKER RB
Javon HARGRAVE DT
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