Patriots Release Dominique Easley

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 16, 2016

rochrist said:
I have vivid memories of Bill bringing the Browns to Foxboro for the playoffs and kicking the ass of the Parcells led Pats.

I remember I recall the defense being stout and Antonio Langham and the secondary making it tough for Drew.

RobertWeathers · Apr 16, 2016

rochrist said:
I have vivid memories of Bill bringing the Browns to Foxboro for the playoffs and kicking the ass of the Parcells led Pats.

Close. The 1994 playoff game was in CLE. Drew threw a ton of picks and they lost 20-13

rochrist · Apr 16, 2016

robertweathers said:
Close. The 1994 playoff game was in CLE. Drew threw a ton of picks and they lost 20-13

Here's an interesting question. What if BB had Drew from day one. Would Drew have learned to play the BB way? My guess is no. Too much 'I'm the number 1 pick in the draft' swag.

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 16, 2016

If im Belichick I wouldnt draft anyone but people who breathe eat drink Football thru the first 4 rounds.
Use the last 3 rounds for the players with talent and question marks.

reflexblue · Apr 16, 2016

robertweathers said:
Close. The 1994 playoff game was in CLE. Drew threw a ton of picks and they lost 20-13

That game was the first time i heard ' Bledoses throwing off his back foot'. Which from then on was heard early and often. Up until that point nobody had come up with a way of stopping Bledsoe.

Ivan · Apr 16, 2016

rochrist said:
Here's an interesting question. What if BB had Drew from day one. Would Drew have learned to play the BB way? My guess is no. Too much 'I'm the number 1 pick in the draft' swag.

This is why Brady won the job, he understood from day 1 that what Belichick wanted from his QB was to make every read and decision exactly the way he would make, I.E...Belichick in the field. Bledsoe believed his arm and 100 million guaranteed his spot as starter forever and Brady knew Belichick would give him the job if he did exactly what Belichick wanted and showed he could win consistently. The two are inextricably entwined and the idea either would fail without the other is idiotic, the only question was Brady getting the chance and showing what he could do, once he did he never gave it back, and Belichick had the balls to trade away a 100 million dollar QB within his division, despite the howls of protest from many fans.

RobertWeathers · Apr 16, 2016

rochrist said:
Here's an interesting question. What if BB had Drew from day one. Would Drew have learned to play the BB way? My guess is no. Too much 'I'm the number 1 pick in the draft' swag.

No b/c I don't think he had the drive, commitment or football IQ to operate at BB's desired level.

With that said, I'm glad Drew was here and am a big fan of his....even though he drove me nuts with INTs at the worst possible moments.

When it all comes down to it, while BB deserves a ton of credit for drafting and bringing along GoAT, you need that certain kind of player who wants to be GoAT....who had a major chip on his shoulder to begin with.

RobertWeathers · Apr 16, 2016

reflexblue said:
That game was the first time i heard ' Bledoses throwing off his back foot'. Which from then on was heard early and often. Up until that point nobody had come up with a way of stopping Bledsoe.

Yep. CLE also had a very good defense and knew how to defend the Perkins/Erhardt offense perfectly.

Plus Corey Croom started that game....seriously.

Kasmir · Apr 16, 2016

1960Pats said:
Why stop there?

Belichick's record without Brady (including Pats games);
52-62 (1-1 playoffs)
Belichick's record with Tom Brady at QB;
171-51 (22-9 playoffs)

Fix THAT.

Don't understand why some folks need to extol Brady at the expense of Belichick. Why not celebrate the fortunate intersection of two of the greatest of all time?

In any case, the argument is bogus as there's no pro-BB answer as we'll (hopefully) never know how Bardy would have done without BB.

Except, does this sound fair: at Michigan, beaten out by Drew Henson, and a mediocrity who fell to the 6th round in the NFL draft. Until his career rescued by Belichick.

Unfair? Certainly, but no more more so than faulting BB for Cleveland.

n6249c · Apr 16, 2016

It's not taking anything away from Brady to say Belichick is the GOAT NFL coach/gm. It's been the perfect storm to dash the NFL hopes for parity, GOAT coach meets QB prospect with talent and work ethic to become the GOAT quarterback.

Serious question though, after Brady fell to the sixth round would any other coach have had the guts to play him over a high draft pick or established starter? Especially after he did not start at Michigan, sitting behind Henson? Which coach are you going to argue would be the one to unleash Brady's potential?

1960Pats · Apr 16, 2016

robertweathers said:
11-5 without Brady and Kraft as his owner and not some mobbed up horse's ass trying to move his team

Wasn't BB 16-18 without Brady and with Kraft?

Deus Irae · Apr 16, 2016

Kasmir said:
Don't understand why some folks need to extol Brady at the expense of Belichick. Why not celebrate the fortunate intersection of two of the greatest of all time?

In any case, the argument is bogus as there's no pro-BB answer as we'll (hopefully) never know how Bardy would have done without BB.

Except, does this sound fair: at Michigan, beaten out by Drew Henson, and a mediocrity who fell to the 6th round in the NFL draft. Until his career rescued by Belichick.

When did Henson beat out Brady?

Kasmir said:
Unfair? Certainly, but no more more so than faulting BB for Cleveland.

Crazy talk

1960Pats · Apr 16, 2016

Ivan said:
Belichick took a sh.tty franchise and was clearly in the process of turning them around when Modell screwed him and the city. Belichick drafted Brady and trained him to run their offense the way he wanted it run. And if you wanted to test your theory that it's all Brady all it would take is for Belichick to decide he was going free agent. He would last all of three seconds, would be the highest paid coach in the history of sports, would be given absolute control over all football operations, and there isn't a team in the league who wouldn't swap out their current coach and GM for him, so while you are entitled to your opinion of Belichick realize that's a lonely place too be.

You would however have triumph to keep you company, just make sure you get to the table first, from the looks of it he eats everything in sight.

I never said that it was all Brady. I was replying to multiple claims that were made here that Belichick is the reason for the Pats success and not Brady. I'm simply saying that it's the other way around.

My opinion and argument about Belichick has always been that he's a great coach but nothing special in the draft, which from the beginning of time I've said is a crapshoot. Somehow people want to turn that around as slamming Belichick.

As for Triumph, or any other poster here, I can separate opinions on different topics. Just because I disagree on some things doesn't mean I can't agree on others.

Ivan · Apr 16, 2016

1960Pats said:
I never said that it was all Brady. I was replying to multiple claims that were made here that Belichick is the reason for the Pats success and not Brady. I'm simply saying that it's the other way around.

My opinion and argument about Belichick has always been that he's a great coach but nothing special in the draft, which from the beginning of time I've said is a crapshoot. Somehow people want to turn that around as slamming Belichick.

As for Triumph, or any other poster here, I can separate opinions on different topics. Just because I disagree on some things doesn't mean I can't agree on others.

Fair enough.

realtime · Apr 16, 2016

Deus Irae said:
When did Henson beat out Brady?

I assume that he meant Griese.

supafly · Apr 16, 2016

AzorianPats said:
Isnt this his 2nd or third recruiting class that can be drafted? Time well tell if it's a Meyer thing, but he has some blame. And considering he recruited Noah Spence, and there's even some talk of Bosa and Eliot loving hard party drugs, sounds like it can be a Meyer issue.

The track record between UF/Meyer has been so poor. We joke about Rutgers, but we've had good success their.

I believe that Meyer has coached at Ohio St for 4 years now, but that's just off the top of my head.

I've never heard anything negative about Zeke Elliot, so that's news to me. I don't know if Meyer recruited Spence or not, but they promptly kicked him off the team either way.

RobertWeathers · Apr 16, 2016

1960Pats said:
Wasn't BB 16-18 without Brady and with Kraft?

Actually 16-16

5-11 in 2000 and 11-5 in 2008.

Edit - add 0-2 for 2001.

realtime · Apr 16, 2016

robertweathers said:
Actually 16-16

5-11 in 2000 and 11-5 in 2008.

I think you are forgetting the first two losses in 2001.

Bill Lee · Apr 16, 2016

rochrist said:
Here's an interesting question. What if BB had Drew from day one. Would Drew have learned to play the BB way? My guess is no. Too much 'I'm the number 1 pick in the draft' swag.

Personally I know Drew had the great arm but think he didn't have the 'football smarts' to read the defense and come to the right decision quickly enough. Lord knows if different coaching would have ever changed him, but both BUF and DAL had him after he left here and he was largely the same guy, even after seeing how TFB's style was more successful than his.

Ivan said:
This is why Brady won the job, he understood from day 1 that what Belichick wanted from his QB was to make every read and decision exactly the way he would make, I.E...Belichick in the field.

Day 1? He himself said his first season he was well behind the curve., I saw an interview with Brady where he said after his first season here he snuck a peek at the coach's evaluation of him and it said he was too slow at everything he did. Apparently that light a fire under his ass and fortunately for us he was ready when needed in his second season.

Kasmir said:
Don't understand why some folks need to extol Brady at the expense of Belichick. Why not celebrate the fortunate intersection of two of the greatest of all time?

That would be nice.

RobertWeathers · Apr 16, 2016

realtime said:
I think you are forgetting the first two losses in 2001.

Ugh. Yep....

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