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Also not really ironic .
He has the best year of his career under a solid o-line coach and two sub-standard ones under a lousy one.
Nothing ironical at all.
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Ah I see what you're saying now. I think I may have read it wrong. -1 for me.He has the best year of his career under a solid o-line coach and two sub-standard ones under a lousy one.
Nothing ironical at all.
You can choose to worry about any roster spot that you wish. At OT, we have two solid starters, and two OK backups. We have much less at some other positions (e.g RB, CB. We need a developmental OT.
The team does prepare for the possibility that Vollmer will not be available. We have had a veteran backup for years.
Meh. All good.Ah I see what you're saying now. I think I may have read it wrong. -1 for me.
I think we take an OT with one of the 2nd rounders IMO.I'm not at all worried about OT's for 2016. We have Solder, Vollmer and Scar's chosen backup: Cannon. We also have Waddle. We will likely add a developmental OT through the draft.
I'm OK with Stork as part of our OL.
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THE ISSUE IS AT OG (one of whom needs to be backup center)
Many here thank that we brought in the future last year in Mason, Jackson and Andrews. Perhaps yes, and perhaps no. None of them showed much, certainly not that they were solid NFL starter material.
In any case, if healthy, we should be better than last year. We've added Cooper. I see at least one more veteran for camp.
Hopefully the team can find someone who is worth a damn to take his place once he retires again.
I respect Mankins and Lights observations and I welcome Scar back after an offseason to rejuvenate himself.
BUT...
Googs had to play 4 rookies and lost his best LOT and his shifted ROT was also hobbled. I defy anyone including Scar to have produced a polished, fully trained and championship caliber O_line in those circumstances. They still went 12-4 despite the issues.
1. Stephen Neal going down.
2. Nick Kaczur starting.
3. Tom Brady ankle injury.
At no point during Scar's tenure did the Pats OL look nearly as bad as it did in early 2014 and the second half of 2015. At no point during Scar's tenure did the Pats lose a game because the opposing defense had the Pats snapcount down cold.
and MIA had the Pat's cadence and snap counts.There was one Miami game that they did. They had the snap count and the plays down cold. But this was back when Taylor and Thomas were still playing for them..
I don't agree that the Patriots have adequate backups at the OT position. Cannon gets out-classed by mediocre DL, and I hate saying that because I'm a huge Cannon fan for what he endured to carve out an NFL career. Fleming was less than impressive last season, but at 23 he's got an upside, and maybe Scarnecchia can bring him along. Fleming is smart, but the Patriots need athletic and nasty on Brady's blind side. Waddle has potential. Maybe Light and Mankins are right about Scarnecchia, and that's the best move that could be made. It would be nice to get a good tackle with one of the 2nd rounders.
There was one Miami game that they did. They had the snap count and the plays down cold. But this was back when Taylor and Thomas were still playing for them..
Matt Light would disagree:
“It blows my mind that, really, the game was lost because of a snap count,” Light said. “I don’t think that they practiced their snap count at all, really, to any degree. We went into a game being able to snap silent count five different ways. Not two. Five. And in that game, I watched them on the snap count and I was blown away. You’re handcuffing your tackles, and that’s what happens when you don’t effectively run a silent snap count. And it was terrible to watch.”
“It wasn’t the talent on the field. They could have beat that team with a little bit more preparation and doing things a little better, and it didn’t happen.”
Correct. The 2013 o-line under scar was also injured and allowed over 40+ sacks and also had a tough time in Denver during the AFCCG. The game from a couple of months ago was a total replay IMO.
The issue is that we have heard from multiple sources that the players were not prepared to play the game. We also saw players not improve as the season went on but play worse. That we know won't be an issue with a Scar-coached line. If they go down or play poorly it will be because they were outplayed and not by not be prepared.
I'm not at all worried about OT's for 2016. We have Solder, Vollmer and Scar's chosen backup: Cannon. We also have Waddle. We will likely add a developmental OT through the draft.
I'm OK with Stork as part of our OL.
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THE ISSUE IS AT OG (one of whom needs to be backup center)
Many here thank that we brought in the future last year in Mason, Jackson and Andrews. Perhaps yes, and perhaps no. None of them showed much, certainly not that they were solid NFL starter material.
In any case, if healthy, we should be better than last year. We've added Cooper. I see at least one more veteran for camp.
I agree.Some people always want to re-fight the last war.
Last year we had to play the drafted offensive linemen in the past two drafts, and were forced to blood four of them as first time rookie starters.. Combined with constant injuries forcing re-juggling throughout the season, the line was hardly a fully trained and competent line.They were limited in the number of silent count methods as Light pointed out.
But they are no longer inexperienced rookies. Indeed they are much more experienced as sophomores than the typical rookies. The line is a past problem; and Cooper can add some more quality.
It is time to turn attention to other problems, like adding some more quality to the offensive skill positions.