Patriots sign TE Clay Harbor

Joker said:

I must say, I cannot WAIT to meet his wife, Pearl...

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And his douche uncles, Coach Jim & John...oh, wait

JMC00 said:

Harbor is twice the player he is. Stats back it up. He literally has twice the amount of yards and receptions Homananwanui has and Hoomanwaui had Brady throwing to him for 3 seasons.

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Sounds like your joking around a bit by setting a low bar of comparison with Hooman who had only 3 catches his last year in New England - not really a high level of productivity. Plus the guy is a couple years older than Hooman. The versatility aspect makes this a typical Belichick signing, but will be a dogfight for him to make the team. Best of luck to him!

Marqui said:

So we're not allowed to have opinions, we have to be homers and act like every Patriots move is great like you. I hope you know pretending every move is perfect isn't going to make the team win the Superbowl.

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Sure, you're allowed to have an opinion. But you and all the others who whine about it seem to forget that when you actually voice your opinion, you immediately open yourself up to others having an opinion on what you state. That's the beauty of the 1st Amendment.

Maybe when you get your cranial-rectal inversion completed you'll understand that no one is pretending like "every move is perfect". Most people outside of you understand that there are different levels of success and that not everything will work out. As was pointed out, you've yet to like a single move that the Patriots have made. Me? I've been indifferent on some and liked the potential of others.

When you stop thinking everything is either going to be a resounding success or utter failure, you'll have an opinion worthy of being listened to.

Clay is versatile and that's what bb craves. An overall upgrade on hooman. I like this move. Might line up as an h back or Fb at times is my guess. Harbor no doubts, in bb I trust!

Gumby said:

Are you going to hook up to drink kamikazes?

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Nah...instead we're going to Harbor Freight to buy a spade and a wheelbarrow...gotta plant some mother of Pearl flower beds...

dae feel free to

TheFlyingWedge said:

Sounds like your joking around a bit by setting a low bar of comparison with Hooman who had only 3 catches his last year in New England - not really a high level of productivity. Plus the guy is a couple years older than Hooman. The versatility aspect makes this a typical Belichick signing, but will be a dogfight for him to make the team.

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Harbor (July 2, 1987) is 367 Days older than Hoomanawanui (July 4th, 1988), but they both came out the same year, 2010.

Otherwise, I agree with you. It's a low risk contract. Harbor will be probably be competing against Derby, Williams, Develin, Iosefa and any other TE/FB types the Pats sign/draft between now and training camp. I figure they'll be vying for 1 or 2 roster spots.

DaBruinz said:

Sure, you're allowed to have an opinion. But you and all the others who whine about it seem to forget that when you actually voice your opinion, you immediately open yourself up to others having an opinion on what you state. That's the beauty of the 1st Amendment.

Maybe when you get your cranial-rectal inversion completed you'll understand that no one is pretending like "every move is perfect". Most people outside of you understand that there are different levels of success and that not everything will work out. As was pointed out, you've yet to like a single move that the Patriots have made. Me? I've been indifferent on some and liked the potential of others.

When you stop thinking everything is either going to be a resounding success or utter failure, you'll have an opinion worthy of being listened to.

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I mostly agree with this. But there's still no need to accuse people of trolling for simply having strong reactions.

Part of being a sports fan is having the freedom to complain. Sure, you can look at it as being whiny....but it shows how dedicated some fans really are. Fans are always going to whine and exhaggerate....but I'd much rather hear criticism from them than see apatahy.

DaBruinz said:

As was pointed out, you've yet to like a single move that the Patriots have made.

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Do you really believe that or are you just trolling me?

VJCPatriot said:

Clay is versatile and that's what bb craves. An overall upgrade on hooman. I like this move. Might line up as an h back or Fb at times is my guess. Harbor no doubts, in bb I trust!

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You're absolutely right. If Hooman is where we're making the comparison, and not Martellus Bennet, then I can get on board with this signing.

E.J. Biggers on the other hand.....that's a different story

ctpatsfan77 said:

Yes, we harbor fugitive punners here.

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This is a bit forced on my part, but do you think this will be a make-or-break season for Harbor?

I like it. Competition for Williams and possibly insurance in case Develin doesn't come back strong. Doesn't need to be a star, just needs to fill a role. And if he doesn't make it, what has been lost?

Chiuba E. Obele said:

I mostly agree with this. But there's still no need to accuse people of trolling for simply having strong reactions.

Part of being a sports fan is having the freedom to complain. Sure, you can look at it as being whiny....but it shows how dedicated some fans really are. Fans are always going to whine and exhaggerate....but I'd much rather hear criticism from them than see apatahy.

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Whining at every acquisition that isn't a star isn't dedication. It shows a lack of understanding of the big picture. Each team signs 90 guys going into OTAs. 37 (41%) of those guys are going to get cut. The funny thing is, the management of the bottom of the roster is a major strength of BB and, at times, has been the difference in winning Superbowls.

patriotfantyler said:

The final piece to the puzzle gentlemen! Now we wait until Bill unleashes the unstoppable Exodia 5 TE offense. Defensive coordinators will crap themselves to sleep.

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I hope Bill gets the Kuriboh (5 tiny WR) offense intact soon.

Deus Irae said:

He's a stiff.

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I disagree. He's not Bennett, but he's not a stiff. He's able to help in a few different ways, including special teams, and is a good athlete. Belichick obviously likes him enough to compare him to Marcel Reese. Versatility is valued especially for depth players. He isn't a world beater but I feel pretty good about him being on the roster right now.

Bennett is no sure thing, Harbor isn't JAG trash, and Michael Williams contributes more than he gets credit for.

As BB likes it, he's going to have a very competitive training camp (again) this year. How a guy operates between Monday and Saturday is probably going to decide matters, which is something that's damn hard for fans to piece together since we don't have eyes on it.

DaBruinz said:

Maybe when you get your cranial-rectal inversion completed you'll understand that no one is pretending like "every move is perfect".

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what about those of us who actually believe that every move is perfect?

at least when the move is made

First, happiness, then sadness.

SlowGettingUp said:

Just before last September’s game against Jacksonville, Patriots coach Bill Belichick talked about Harbor.

“I’d say that Harbor is kind of similar to [Marcel] Reece. He’s a fullback, tight end kind of guy. [He] sort of lines up in a lot of different places. They use him in motion, change formations with him quite a bit,” Belichick said. “Harbor is a good receiver.”​

Deus Irae said:

He's a stiff. You don't develop 29 year old tight ends.

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Why do the Pats set me up like this?

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I like this signing, for what I ass-ume will be something similar to the cost of Nate Washington. If so, then his per/dollar value is better than HooHah, and much, much better than the plodding, alligator-armed, $5.3M mistake aka Scott Chandler.

As others have mentioned, he was a fairly athletic guy out of college; how much of that athleticism he has retained remains to be seen, of course, especially after undergoing sports-hernia surgery. Probably some of it, but certainly not all of it.

does AJ Derby have a shot?
Also I dont expect a tightends name to be called this draft til the 6th round and if we sign Knighton then I can see us trading up and around for about 5 guys we have targeted.
I would say Priorities are RB OL LB WR and yes I would say that order.