Welcome Nate Washington

sieglo · Mar 26, 2016

n6249c said:
Old news.
I seem to recall a guy named Wes Welker did pretty well against the Pats when he was a 'Phin.
And didn't Hogan have his best games against the Pats when he was a Bill?

Don't forget Scott Chandler.

Schmo · Mar 26, 2016

Deus Irae said:
Bennett's history is all about "buyer beware". His years in Dallas were disastrous, he let his weight get up to 295 in the offseason of his one NYG season, he got suspended by the Bears for an attack on a teammate, the Bears spent 2 seasons trying to get rid of him before NE finally bit on a trade, and he hasn't yet learned the fine art of shutting the hell up.

There's no question that he's a physical specimen, but that hasn't generally translated onto the field in a way you might expect. Yes, he's had a 90 catch season, but that was on a 5-11 team, so it didn't translate to wins or points (23rd in NFL scoring, despite BM tallying 61 catches, MF racking up 102, and AJ getting 85 on top of Bennett's 90).

My recommendation for Bennett, in terms of impact, can probably best be summed up like this:

Hope for domination
Expect mediocrity/acceptability/quality
Prepare for disappointment
Have an exit plan for disaster

I like the trade, given the available alternatives, but I look at it while accepting that his history demonstrates that he could fall anywhere on the above spectrum.

For some reason, it's easier for players to be a d!ck when they're playing for a sh!tty team. 90 catches on a 5-11 team had to be pretty frustrating. (Throw in typical Randy Moss reference here) If gronk played for, say, the Jets, his mouth would probably get him in trouble.

The hope I have is that, upon arriving in NE, he can invert his behavior. I seem to remember pats players saying that BB is great at letting players be themselves behind closed doors, as long as they don't open that door for the media and other teams' verbal bait.

Even Aaron Hernandez managed to not get thrown off the team.... well, it took a homicide, but apparently in the locker room, he behaved himself enough to not disrupt the roster. That's saying a lot. BB managed to make a psychopathic murderer behave.

As far as production, Chandler's miserable season caught a lot of us off guard and taught us that there is such a thing as an Ocho Cinco at TE. So, I will go ahead and agree with you that we should hold off on crowning 'the best TE duo of all time. '

Froob · Mar 26, 2016

RayClay said:
Battle Dobson? somehow that image made me laugh. Nate really does battle for the ball. Dobson?...

Dobson battles himself.

RayClay · Mar 26, 2016

Froob said:
Dobson battles himself.

He does. He's lost confidence since his first season. I fear he'll either need a fresh start [no pressure] or he'll fade away.

strngplyr · Mar 26, 2016

Why is this Nate Washington thread all about how risky Bennett is?

Froob · Mar 26, 2016

RayClay said:
He does. He's lost confidence since his first season. I fear he'll either need a fresh start [no pressure] or he'll fade away.

Maybe Pittsburgh?

Ochmed Jones · Mar 27, 2016

Froob said:
Dobson battles himself.

Dobson has not mastered option routes so Brady does not trust him.

It is not a confidence thing.

Ross12 · Mar 27, 2016

Schmo said:
For some reason, it's easier for players to be a d!ck when they're playing for a sh!tty team. 90 catches on a 5-11 team had to be pretty frustrating. (Throw in typical Randy Moss reference here) If gronk played for, say, the Jets, his mouth would probably get him in trouble.

The hope I have is that, upon arriving in NE, he can invert his behavior. I seem to remember pats players saying that BB is great at letting players be themselves behind closed doors, as long as they don't open that door for the media and other teams' verbal bait.

Even Aaron Hernandez managed to not get thrown off the team.... well, it took a homicide, but apparently in the locker room, he behaved himself enough to not disrupt the roster. That's saying a lot. BB managed to make a psychopathic murderer behave.

As far as production, Chandler's miserable season caught a lot of us off guard and taught us that there is such a thing as an Ocho Cinco at TE. So, I will go ahead and agree with you that we should hold off on crowning 'the best TE duo of all time. '

Not only did BB manage a murderer in his locker room, and not only was that murderer well-behaved and liked, but that murderer still loves his team and writes letters about "his guys".

supafly · Mar 28, 2016

Ochmed Jones said:
Dobson has not mastered option routes so Brady does not trust him.

It is not a confidence thing.

I agree that Brady doesn't trust him, and also that he's not a terribly good route runner, but the lack of confidence trait is certainly coinciding with the first two. There's also the fact that he double catches the ball at an alarming rate, or at least it seems that way.

Froob said:
Maybe Pittsburgh?

MAYBE WILD PANTHER?

I'd prefer that he goes to the other conference, just in case you're right.

supafly · Mar 28, 2016

Ross12 said:
Not only did BB manage a murderer in his locker room, and not only was that murderer well-behaved and liked, but that murderer still loves his team and writes letters about "his guys".

I'm sure they absolutely love that in Foxborough. Brady's probably sitting there right now just waiting for the moment when Hernandez finally spills the beans about the one time Tom ate too much avocado ice cream and accidentally sharted himself in the locker room.

You know Hernandez has some juicy details about Kraft banging 20 year olds, McCourty being gay, or Belichick's German dungeon porn addiction.

Ross12 · Mar 28, 2016

supafly said:
I'm sure they absolutely love that in Foxborough. Brady's probably sitting there right now just waiting for the moment when Hernandez finally spills the beans about the one time Tom ate too much avocado ice cream and accidentally sharted himself in the locker room.

You know Hernandez has some juicy details about Kraft banging 20 year olds, McCourty being gay, or Belichick's German dungeon porn addiction.

LOL. The sad thing is that 50% of those ideas are probably true. I they are 2 of the first 3 and not the last one, though.

Then again, I think Hernandez is writing his jail cell "letters" to some woman... And he slips in little bits about loving his team in at the end after his criminal rants... I don't really know the right context of a letter to a woman where he might slip in a story about a Brady shart.

1960Pats · Mar 28, 2016

Ross12 said:
If the offensive line can improve under Scar, if Cooper pans out, if Washington is at least as good for NE as he was last year for Houston, if Lewis comes back fully healthy, and assuming Bennett pans out as we all expect, this offense is going to be downright scary. Washington can threaten outside and make the opponent defend the back end of the field, but Edelman, Gronk, Bennett and Lewis can all beat one-on-one matchups with relative ease. Yikes.

Allow me to add one more if to your thoughts. That would be if Edleman comes back fully healthy. That seems to be the elephant in the room that everyone is ignoring.

zipster9 · Mar 28, 2016

If Patriots trade Amendola for a 3rd or 4th rounder, would you take it? There a teams that need a #2 WR. For Patriots, he is #3 or #4.

Bourne Again Christian · Mar 28, 2016

zipster9 said:
If Patriots trade Amendola for a 3rd or 4th rounder, would you take it? There a teams that need a #2 WR. For Patriots, he is #3 or #4.

Dreaming third or fourth he could be bundled in a trade for Gordon or a running back
However I can see us trading him for a 5th round pick.

jah · Mar 28, 2016

zipster9 said:
If Patriots trade Amendola for a 3rd or 4th rounder, would you take it? There a teams that need a #2 WR. For Patriots, he is #3 or #4.

They won't get that for Amendola.

50-yard-line · Mar 28, 2016

zipster9 said:
If Patriots trade Amendola for a 3rd or 4th rounder, would you take it? There a teams that need a #2 WR. For Patriots, he is #3 or #4.

No. They won't get that anyway, and even if they could, no trade please until they are certain that Edelman's foot is secure. If Edelman's not ready, or reinjures, or just can't cut on it like before, Amendola is gold.

zipster9 · Mar 28, 2016

Something is going to budge, restructure or trade. I doubt they will just release him or keep him at his current salary.

I think you have Nate return punts, too.

Ross12 · Mar 29, 2016

So basically a veteran minimum deal. Pretty good signing.

Ring 6 · Mar 29, 2016

supafly said:
I'm sure they absolutely love that in Foxborough. Brady's probably sitting there right now just waiting for the moment when Hernandez finally spills the beans about the one time Tom ate too much avocado ice cream and accidentally sharted himself in the locker room.

You know Hernandez has some juicy details about Kraft banging 20 year olds, McCourty being gay, or Belichick's German dungeon porn addiction.

McCourty is gay?

Brady_to_Moss · Mar 29, 2016

RayClay said:
He does. He's lost confidence since his first season. I fear he'll either need a fresh start [no pressure] or he'll fade away.

Still not sure he makes it through camp

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