Report: NFL Manipulated Concussion Research

ANGR89 · Mar 24, 2016

So hoping that above article means things are going to blow up for the nfl with all their shady crap!

ReverendMaynard · Mar 25, 2016

ANGR89 said:
Congress wants answers and documents from the nfl....
Congress to NFL: Explain actions on research

This is sweet. Congress wants answers! Let's see if Goodell's double speak will be enough for them.

Joker · Mar 25, 2016

And now ladies and germs, Joe Kerr the Unpredictable will predict the future over infinite time lines...

Breaking News: Roger Goodell announces plans to play games in Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary for the next 10 years....

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Marinlik · Mar 25, 2016

BradyFTW! said:
**** Kraft. You'd think he, of all people, would know to regard any and all NFL spin with intense skepticism. The fact that he's taking the league at its word here proves that he's (A) an idiot, (B) he values his 31 'buddies' (who apparently hate him) in the owners' club above all else (including the Pats, Brady, Belichick, and the fans) or (C) both. B is definitely the case. Still not sure if A is, I'm guessing not. If he seems like an idiot, it's only because we incorrectly assume that he cares about anything other than having Goodell and the other 31's backs, even as they **** all over him.

Kraft is on the side of money. The NFL being successful continues to make him very rich. He doesn't really have anything to gain by going anti NFL on concussions. This is not defending Kraft. This is saying that Kraft is a part of the NFL that wants the concussion problem gone. That's the money side. The side that makes the moneyhouse that is the NFL to keep on going.

1960Pats · Mar 25, 2016

Clonamery said:
He really just needs to stop speaking about events and issues publicly for awhile.

He can't help himself. He likes being a celebrity.

MitchKumstein · Mar 25, 2016

ANGR89 said:
Congress wants answers and documents from the nfl....
Congress to NFL: Explain actions on research

Interesting that espn is now reporting on how the nfl scumbags tried to derail the cte studies

Could there be a rift in the relationship between the nfl and their puppet network?

1960Pats · Mar 25, 2016

I don't know what's sadder. The NYJFL's treatment of concussions or that people believe our politicians will do anything about it.

vyrago · Mar 25, 2016

zydecochris said:
I've always thought that this concussion thing is the only truly existential threat that really terrifies the NFL owners, and I think it helps to explain the otherwise seemingly unexplainable nonsense of Deflategate.

There is a wonderful movie called "Wag the Dog" where a PR guy invents a fake war with Albania to distract the public from a major presidential scandal. This type of thing happens all the time with PR savvy leaders, just look at Putin in Russia: his economy is in the tank, so he manufactures a enemy / distraction and uses his army to beat up on a couple of small countries, presto, chango, 80% approval ratings.

Its important to remember that Goodell is a PR guy, he has been around politics as the son of a US Senator and his first job with the NFL was in public relations. He clearly isn't the brightest bulb in the lamp (he must have been sleeping through the Ideal Gas Law during High School Physics), but you have to admit he has been able to keep the NFL in the news pretty consistently.

....And, when there is an existential threat to the NFL (the way the NFL has suppressed concussion research in the past/present), he invents a war with the least liked NFL franchise (the Pats) and distracts the public with the nonsense of Deflategate for over a year now. I think whether or not there actually was some type of ball deflation is completely irrelevant to the NFL, as long as it is a big distraction (from the REAL threat, the concussion thing) they win.

...If this NY Times article on concussions ends up getting any traction, any bets on whether another major NFL news distraction occurs? Maybe the NFL will declare war on Albania as in "Wag the Dog"?

Some CongressCritter has to risk his or her popularity by going after the most popular game in the country. Bravery isn't the hallmark of the U.S. Congress. Going after the hated Patriots, as Arlen Spector did is easy; taking on the NFL, not so much.

RhodyPatriot · Mar 25, 2016

Gator Mike said:
Pretty damning stuff from the New York Times this morning:

Now, an investigation by The New York Times has found that the N.F.L.'s concussion research was far more flawed than previously known.

For the last 13 years, the N.F.L. has stood by the research, which, the papers stated, was based on a full accounting of all concussions diagnosed by team physicians from 1996 through 2001. But confidential data obtained by The Times shows that more than 100 diagnosed concussions were omitted from the studies -- including some severe injuries to stars like quarterbacks Steve Young and Troy Aikman. The committee then calculated the rates of concussions using the incomplete data, making them appear less frequent than they actually were.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/s...t-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Yikes.

Goodell and his crew (Jerah Jones et al) are genuinely evil.
EVIL!!!!
Lives are ruined, people are dying and all they care about is their $$$$$$$$$ and will
lie, cheat and manipulate at every turn to protect those riches.
(Makes Bob Kraft's allegiance to this group of kooks, drunks and degenerates even more sickening)
This league needs to be taken down and a court of law is the only place it can happen.
Here's hoping!!!!!!!!

Mack Herron · Mar 25, 2016

I can't wait to see Kraft and his buddies doing this.

king_ejd · Mar 25, 2016

Of course they manipulated the data! Well, "conveniently omit" would be the better way to phrase it.

To me, football is like smoking: anyone over the age of 5 who views the activity can deduce that it's

definitely NOT good for you. Hell, as I've said in previous posts - my *job* is inherently bad for

my body and I sit in an office chair all day. I can't imagine why these guys have health problems!

zydecochris · Mar 25, 2016

vyrago said:
Some CongressCritter has to risk his or her popularity by going after the most popular game in the country. Bravery isn't the hallmark of the U.S. Congress. Going after the hated Patriots, as Arlen Spector did is easy; taking on the NFL, not so much.

Good point, but smoking was pretty popular too, and the smoking industry had the same type of $$$$ and lobbying muscle as the NFL, and it was eventually knocked down several notches (although it took a long time). Maybe some young Congressman trying to make a name for himself??

RedSleevesPinkStripes · Mar 25, 2016

1960Pats said:
He can't help himself. He likes being a celebrity.

Yup. At this point he's a caricature of the great man we thought we knew. Early onset dementia maybe?

Side note, Kraft needs to stop with those horrible white collar shirts and lame ass bedazzled sneakers.. Embarrassing

Kdo5 · Mar 25, 2016

Ivan said:
Once again Kraft is on the wrong side. Screw him.

Well this is the guy who publically endorsed the job Goodell was doing during the Ray Rice fiasco. I tend to agree with the member who suggested he just shut up a bit more.

Ring 6 · Mar 25, 2016

1960Pats said:
I don't know what's sadder. The NYJFL's treatment of concussions or that people believe our politicians will do anything about it.

Robert Kraft disagrees with you.

Kraft: Life lessons from playing football are worth the risk

Asked if he had seen the report, Kraft replied, "Have you seen the NFL's reaction to that?"

"I'll just say this," Kraft continued, "any contact sport, whether it's women's soccer, hockey or football, there are going to be concussions. I'll tell you this, that I think the game has never been safer from an equipment point of view, from a medical point of view. I know I played, two of my sons played, my three grandsons play so we have three generations playing the game, and I think the life lessons that you get playing football are worth the risk."

voluntarysaftey · Mar 25, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
Robert Kraft disagrees with you.

Kraft: Life lessons from playing football are worth the risk

Unfortunately, Kraft and his pals did not let others decide if its worth the risk when they paid off researchers and publications to publish false information.

Kraft, and his pals, did not let others decide if its worth the risk to keep playing after injury by having team doctors, and a highly incompetent nfl head doctor, minimize the long term damage and greenlight people going back into games.

This past year, there's been cases of players calling it quits early, or even a nfl bound player deciding not to go -- Kraft, and his pals, took away -- and continues to try to -- take away the ability of players to make informed decisions and to get good advice on head injuries

It's clear now that sadly, Kraft is not a 'good guy' -- he's just a guy who likes being rich and famous.

MitchKumstein · Mar 25, 2016

One-Be-Lo said:
Yup. At this point he's a caricature of the great man we thought we knew. Early onset dementia maybe?

I thought the same thing after he repeated his "We're all Patriots!" speech after the Pats/Seattle Super Bowl. When he first said it in Feb 2002 it seemed genuine and heartfelt. When he repeated it again 14 years later it felt fake. He looked like an old man who maybe didn't have all his marbles who was failing at trying to say something powerful

ReverendMaynard · Mar 25, 2016

MitchKumstein said:
I thought the same thing after he repeated his "We're all Patriots!" speech after the Pats/Seattle Super Bowl. When he first said it in Feb 2002 it seemed genuine and heartfelt. When he repeated it again 14 years later it felt fake. He looked like an old man who maybe didn't have all his marbles who was failing at trying to say something powerful

Agreed. It sounded very much like someone repeating their patented catch phrase rather than anything heartfelt, like PM saying he was going to drink a Bud.

Brady_to_Moss · Mar 25, 2016

And yet they will still make billions and billions because no one will stop watching games. I always say this now to people around me. If i wasn't this huge into the Pats...i would have been out a long time ago

MitchKumstein · Mar 25, 2016

ReverendMaynard said:
Agreed. It sounded very much like someone repeating their patented catch phrase rather than anything heartfelt, like PM saying he was going to drink a Bud.

I remember after Home Alone became a hit, for 2 years whenever a paparazzi took Macaulay Culkin's picture he would do his 'hands on his cheeks' pose. It was, like, "ok Kid, we get it, you can stop now"

For some weird reason I thought of that when Bob was repeating his "We're all Patriots" speech

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