Bad News for Kraft haters

XLIX · Mar 22, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
@Ian it just doesn't end

It doesn't end because you never let it end. You always have to have the last word. In the past few days, you have accused about 6 of us of "being obsessed" with you.

Maybe you're the one who is obsessed, not everybody else.

OhExaulted1 · Mar 22, 2016

borg said:
Not once has anyone in this organization….owner, coach, QB….. screamed to high heaven…….WE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instead, they delicately straddle the fine line of composure, deference, procedure…..which is telling. And because Brady has yet to pound the table while his reputation gets sullied and his legacy gets diminished …..one has to wonder why he/they don't have it in them to be more vocal. Their lack of fortitude to stand up for themselves and proclaim their innocence while waiting on a procedural victory…….beyond puzzling. If your innocent, you scream it and you rip apart Goodell and his henchmen and you show no mercy…..especially during this appeals process. Give these judges something to chew on while they're weighing procedure.
Or maybe they're guilty

Ring 6 · Mar 22, 2016

XLIX said:
It doesn't end because you never let it end. You always have to have the last word. In the past few days, you have accused about 6 of us of "being obsessed" with you.

Maybe you're the one who is obsessed, not everybody else.

I have not sought out either you or illegal contact as you both seek me out. It isn't 6 it is 2.
I have no interest in reading what either of you have to say or having a discussion with you which is why my ONLY posts toward either of you is in responding to you quoting my posts. It's very simple. I want nothing to do with either of you and neither of you can stop quoting my posts. Just stop. I don't care what you have to say and I'm sure the board doesn't.
Do you really think anyone wants to read you making comments about me?
This is a football board not a place to deal with your inferiority complex out in the open.

meatface · Mar 22, 2016

IllegalContact said:
Now you gotta hate the kid, too

Jonathan Kraft explains why Patriots didn’t sue NFL over Deflategate

common sense.....nothing more

all the shoulda coulda woulda needs to be parked in a dumpster and people should really move on because your *****ing is pointless and will achieve nothing

I am going to go out on a limb and saying this didnt go over well with the anti-Kraft crowd. You arent allowed to say anything to burst their bubble

Armchair Quarterback · Mar 22, 2016

Schmo said:
I understand what it's like to be accused of something you never did, resulting in a dumbstruck response to said accusations.

In these situations, I have both confronted and fought (mostly figuratively, once literally) the person and have also tried my best to ignore the accusations. When dealing with someone with more power than you, both responses are almost always a losing battle (even if you win a fight, you can most certainly still end up doing more damage to your reputation and well-being e.g. Al Davis and drunk frat boys).

I think the biggest (or only) sin that Bob committed was not being proactive - "Fool me once...." After Spygate, he should have known the patriots were treated unfairly, and should have been ready for more unreasonable accusations from the NFL. Sure, the pats taped from the wrong spot. They did commit a foul, as minor as it was, so they had to own up to it. But the punishment should have raised every single eyebrow in the organization.... we were punished worse than the Broncos after their cheating in '96-'98 apparently coincided with 2 super bowl wins.

I think the only way Kraft, Belichick and the rest of the organization were proactive was by being more conscious of the rules - worrying about their side of things, not how to prevent the unreasonable actions of the NFL. I don't know how anyone could have been prepared for the ******** that the NFL invented.

Yes, Kraft had absolutely no backbone, and was too trigger shy to stand up for people he trusts. So, how do you confidently defend the actions of a whole organization of people without knowing absolutely no one did anything wrong...... I'll tell you how, you pay millions of dollars to investigate and find out exactly what happened. Luckily, the NFL did that for him, and he hasn't run with all the information he was given.

Without defending or condemning RK, I feel like Goodell committed murder, Kraft was left holding the gun, and then he shot himself in the foot to boot (no pun intended). He knew he was fighting a losing battle, and he fought it the wrong way.

Bob's the owner and ultimately the blame should fall on him, but it pisses me off that Goodell was able to make us Patriots fans ashamed of our own organization for completely made up circumstances.

You can blame Kraft for Goodell as well. AFTER SPYGATE, Kraft became Goodell's biggest supporter.

XLIX · Mar 22, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
I have not sought out either you or illegal contact as you both seek me out. It isn't 6 it is 2.
I have no interest in reading what either of you have to say or having a discussion with you which is why my ONLY posts toward either of you is in responding to you quoting my posts. It's very simple. I want nothing to do with either of you and neither of you can stop quoting my posts. Just stop. I don't care what you have to say and I'm sure the board doesn't.

If you want it to stop, you can stop responding!! I am not the one complaining about some perceived obsession and whining "stop! just stop!"

If you had the ability to ignore comments - either by using the ignore feature or simply having the internal fortitude not to look - you could stop it any time you want. But for some reason you are physically incapable of not pressing that "reply" button.

Big Bucks · Mar 22, 2016

One of the most frustrating things about this whole thing is the media not asking the questions we would like answered. So frustrating.

Maybe the forum could put 20 questions together and maybe send it over to Patriots Place to see if the media relations guys will pass it onto Jonathan Kraft and get him to answer them. What odds we get a reply.

ahmed · Mar 22, 2016

Blah blah blah... you go to court on principle, if nothing else! Talk is cheap.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Mar 22, 2016

Big Bucks said:
One of the most frustrating things about this whole thing is the media not asking the questions we would like answered. So frustrating.

Maybe the forum could put 20 questions together and maybe send it over to Patriots Place to see if the media relations guys will pass it onto Jonathan Kraft and get him to answer them. What odds we get a reply.

Here's a question: if you can't get the picks back, can you at least stop telling this numbnutz what a great job he's doing?

captain stone · Mar 22, 2016

Mack Herron said:

That photo shows us all we need to know about Bendover Bobbie Kraft the Koward.

And why is the TV there showing Brandon LaFail?

FCB02062 · Mar 22, 2016

captain stone said:
That photo shows us all we need to know about Bendover Bobbie Kraft the Koward.

And why is the TV there showing Brandon LaFail?

I think krafty Bob is a fan of grabbing Roger's soap....

Jlaff · Mar 23, 2016

robertweathers said:
Lots of reasons..Solidarity. Never trash an employee publicly. Pressure to support him from other owners. Senility. Viagra having lasting effects. Drunkenness.

Senility makes sense, Kraft is praising Goodell like it's 2007.

Clonamery · Mar 23, 2016

Mack Herron said:

Which one is Mr. Kraft's girlfriend again? The one on his right or his left?

Dear Mr Kraft,

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Goodell is ****e. There must be others who can give you more billions because, quite frankly, Goodell is frightenly stupid (see Jets fans history/DNA) and a megalomaniac.

Hugs and kisses,
Your concerned fans

P.S. China? Really?

Ring 6 · Mar 23, 2016

XLIX said:
If you want it to stop, you can stop responding!! I am not the one complaining about some perceived obsession and whining "stop! just stop!"

If you had the ability to ignore comments - either by using the ignore feature or simply having the internal fortitude not to look - you could stop it any time you want. But for some reason you are physically incapable of not pressing that "reply" button.

I've chosen to handle this a different way. If you have such a problem with me I suggest you take your own advice. As I said I no longer respond to any of your posts unless they are personal about me. How about we keep this about football?

OhExaulted1 · Mar 23, 2016

Gronkowski123 said:
all talk no action

these guys hang around and hug roger all the time. this team deserves better owners, not gutless cowards.

Yeah, its to bad we didn't still have Orthwein.

Ring 6 · Mar 23, 2016

OhExaulted1 said:
Yeah, its to bad we didn't still have Orthwein.

If orthwein or whoever else bought the team from him instead of Kraft hired bb we might have the same success and 3 more draft picks.

Major ********** · Mar 23, 2016

Mack Herron said:

Looks like Rogah had an accident!

OhExaulted1 · Mar 23, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
If orthwein or whoever else bought the team from him instead of Kraft hired bb we might have the same success and 3 more draft picks.

You seriously typed that, read it and still decided to post it?

It was either Kraft bought the team or you'd be typing dumb posts like this on a St. Louis Stallions board.

PatriotsReign · Mar 23, 2016

For Patriots fans that hate Kraft, I suggest you find another team to support. He's by far the best owner in the NFL

And for the dopes Like flasox & wrath mania that disagree, name a better owner. Also, winners are worth 50 Disagrees....

Kontradiction · Mar 23, 2016

Fail. Jonathan essentially admits that they could have sued the league, yet didn't. So here we have...

1. Bob Kraft backing Goodell publicly after Spygate.

2. Bob Kraft backing Goodell publicly after the Ray Rice fiasco.

3. Bob Kraft hugging Goodell on the sideline before the Giants contest, post-Deflategate.

4. Jonathan Kraft admitting the team could have sued the league.

And yet, some of you still put the blame solely at the feet of Goodell for this and ignore the man who helped create and certainly encouraged the monster.

“Well, putting personal situations aside, I think he has done a very good job. He’s worked hard. The health of the league has not been better. We have our issue that we don’t think has been handled well. It is what it is.”

That, right there, is indefensible. And it was said just two days ago. You ******* drunk again, Bob? A very good job? He's probably the worst commissioner in the history of American professional sports.

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