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Jones' trade value?

3rd and 6th from the Cowboys maybe? He's getting expensive. Maybe time to cash in.
 
The pros and cons of trading Jones have been discussed on here and I think it's pretty clear they should just keep him. Why trade a borderline elite DE when you can keep him on the team for 1 more year in Brady's prime while making another run at a SuperBowl? Keep the team loaded - don't weaken it in exchange for another draft pick or two that a) likely won't have an impact any time soon, and b) might amount to nothing in comparison to the player Jones has become.

They'll get a tradeable 3rd round compensatory pick for Jones once he likely leaves in FA next off-season.
 
Jones' trade value?

3rd and 6th from the Cowboys maybe? He's getting expensive. Maybe time to cash in.
Why would a SB contender trade one of the top pass rushers in the league in a contract year?
 
Because he's not that great and we can get something for him right now.

That's not the question.

The question is, "Is what the Pats could get in a trade better than the alternative (here, keeping Chandler)?" It's not at all clear that they feel that way.
 
This has been discussed, but is certainly worth continuing to kick around...

01 ~ The reason why we'd consider trading Jones is obvious, yes? To recoup Value beyond a distant and uncertain 2018 or 2019 Compensation Pick, should we, as Fans and Theoretical General Managers, decide that retaining his Contract is either not viable or not in our Team's best interests.

02 ~ I don't believe that there's anyone who's more eager to trade Veterans for Picks than I ~ the Infernal Salary Cap forces difficult decisions constantly ~ but I for one would far prefer to retain Jones. He's not Godzilla, I grant you, but I believe that he's lived up to every ounce of his 1st Round Pedigree.

03 ~ I haven't sat down and did the Math, but my general understanding is that we can manage to retain his Services and those of Collins, HighTower, and Butler right through their Primes. Mind you: Thus doing would be a matter of Choice, and'd mean choosing not to retain the Services of others.

04 ~ And that's why trading Jones ~ though I'm not a proponent of doing so ~ is a perfectly reasonable Option: Because Jones's Services might carry Trade Value far beyond that of others.

05 ~ The question of course comes down to: Would the approximate difference between what we could get for'm now and what we could get for'm later justify losing his Services for 2016 and perhaps 2017??

06 ~ As for what that Trade Value might be? It's tricky, of course, due to my awkward financial circumstances: I haven't as yet managed to gather enough Scratch to purchase the Patriots from the Krafts ~ hence we have neither our original 2016 1st Rounder, nor the 1st overall Pick in compensation for the pilfered 2008 1st Rounder, and of course Goodel isn't rotting in Prison where he belongs.

07 ~ I would think ~ leaving Goodel's Rape of Kraft without even a CRA aside for the moment ~ that the unencumbered Market Value for Jones's Services on the Market right now would be best measured by comparing them with the Jared Allen Trade between the Vikings and Chiefs in 2008.

08 ~ Indeed, the Parallels are remarkable: Both Players are Dragons ~ about 6.5/265 ~ had 4 Years on'm, and had forged impressive Resumes as they approached their Primes. However, Allen had 43 Sacks to Jones's current 35, and had become a Star in 2007, erupting for 15.5 Sacks to lead the League.

09 ~ Interesting, though, that the Parallels continue to echo: As 2007 was Allen's BreakOut Year, so too was 2015 Jones's best statistical Year and his first Pro Bowl ~ and indeed he seemed on the way to a Monster Year half way in. Also in his Favor is his Draft Pedigree. Allen was a 4th Rounder.

10 ~ The Vikings gave up a 1st Rounder ~ #17 ~ and 2 3rd Rounders plus change for Jared Allen. But one Trade in 2008 does not set the Market. It only suggests what it might be.

11 ~ I'd put Jones's Value at about a late 1st Rounder and a 4th.

12 ~ Obviously, that's not happening unless there's shocking News on the DeflateGate Front.

Personally, I'd hold on to'm for now at the very least.

The way that this Defense is coming together, I believe that there is a distinct Possibility that he's about to launch a Career Year ~ 18 Sacks or something crazy like that ~ and that, should we choose to do so, we could get a King's Ransom for'is Services a Year from now as a Tag & Trade...just as with Jared Allen.
 
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Jones is going to jump out to 10 sacks in 8 games and then fall off a cliff and collect another 4 over the rest of the season.
 
maybe they can get a 2th round pick but its a weak Draft that pick may turn into a safety that plays ST for 2 years and then cut there is no reason to trade one of the best pass rushers in the BB era away just because he did not have a von miller playoff impact
 
Am I wrong in thinking Belichick has his d-line do a lot more than try to sack the quarterback every play? Seems like they do a lot more of playing contain/dropping into coverage etc than a lot/most(?) other teams. I don't think sack-numbers is necessarily the all-inclusive way to determine Jones potential trade-value to another like-minded coach.
 
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A first and a fourth certainly sounds a lot like a 2nd and Josh Gordon! :cool:
 
I think they should try to trade Jones to the Rams for Tavon Austin.
They just cut Long and their Pass Rush was non existent and they were never really able to use Austins skillset. He is also in the last year of his contract if they don't pick up his fifth year option.
TA is a similar player as Amendola, just younger and quicker, so the pats could cut Amendola (I like him but he costs too much).
 
Austin is 5'8" not exactly the kind of guy we need.
 
Not as an addition but instead of Amendola. He is a jack of all trades, can you imagine teams trying to cover against Austin on one side and Lewis on the other?
 
"Chandler Jones is not that great", is amusing. Time and time again players are denigrated on this board, without knowing their specific game assignments or physical health. He had a drop off in the second half of last year because he had some injury issues..

Knowledgeable Pats fans know that this team game plans for each team, so we never know what Jones or another players responsibility is.. suspect that because of injuries to our LB corps, he was not rushing the passer as much as had to pick up for some of their shortcomings. Can any fan know whether he was doing his job or not??

Always go back to the days of Richard Seymour when he was criticized on this board as he did not show up in the "box score", only to have BB ascend to the podium and comment what a great game he had.

Would not trade him to any team, he has great value to this team and if he does move on the Pats will receive a comp pick..
 
Jones' trade value?

3rd and 6th from the Cowboys maybe? He's getting expensive. Maybe time to cash in.
It's truly NOT crazy time at Patsfans without kennyb.

Cash in, baby, cash in. My Madden finger is itchy as hell.
 
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