Patriots make major update to Wells Report In Context site

From Day One I've been singing this one from the rooftops as it completely deflates Goodell's case

Anderson has the best memory in the world as far as the NFL is concerned at one moment - but has Alzheimer's the next

You HAVE to believe that if you believe the footballs were deflated. End of discussion

Myth #6:The PSI measurements pre-game and at halftime were scientifically reliable enough to base definitive conclusions on them. Referee Anderson measured 48 footballs pre-game in the Officials’ Locker Room with the footballs spread out around him on the floor. His mission was simply to make sure they were in the permissible range of Rule 2. He was not charged with recording the PSI of each football. The NFL had no protocols for recording any data during the pre-game gauging process, and despite the notice from the Colts, had not adopted any protocols for the AFC Championship game. He did not recall which team’s footballs he measured first. He did his best to recall, days or weeks later, the precise PSI numbers of what, at the time he gauged the footballs, were inconsequential specifics. The same NFL lawyers who rejected his recollection as to which gauge he used nonetheless chose to assume the accuracy of his recollections of precise pre-game PSI numbers of each of 48 footballs, down to a tenth of a pound of PSI.

Koma said:

All the hackers need to do is figure out if Goodell's password is integrity, Integrity, INTEGRITY, or InteGoodellrity and they'll be in.

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You sure it wouldn't be something simpler like ****.

PS sorry mum

Mack Herron said:

Good commentary from Hurley here and some possible motivation:

In the end, he too is puzzled as to the reason:

Are Patriots Still Fighting NFL? 8,000-Word Essay Doesn't Make It Clear

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I swear, if Kraft has another one of those "sorry fans but there's nothing I can do but wallow in my own puddle of shame" PC's at the next owner's meetings, I'm gonna punch a hole in my wall.

Being from NY, it's STILL a pain in the a** to have to deal with idiotic mouth breathing Jest/Gints fans who always ask "if you weren't guilty why'd your owner accept the penalties??!!" It sounds weird when I counter with, "He thought his friend Goodell would have his back, do him a solid."

I love this team, but Defending the Wall is becoming a fulltime job. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.

When you read any article on the Patriots in a national publication whether it be news or sports news, the comments following are always interesting.. usually followed by something like "Belicheat" or other such nonsense..

No matter what the outcome of any proceeding the NFL has pretty much destroyed our credibility in the court of public opinion.. that will never be made up, as the quote goes "they hate us, because they ain't us"... their network hires commentators who believe St. Louis was secretly taped, that "spygate" was much different than it really is.. and now this idiotic issue about deflated footballs. ESPN like the little "Pavlovians" they are usually follows along or piles on.

The NFL could have chosen a different path, but they chose not to.. thus this incredibly stupid state of affairs for the Patriots.

Reading through the 8000 word report, at the end are three initials, "D.L.G." which I assume refers to the author of the piece. I Googled the terms," counsel- New England Patriots" since it reads like a well written legal brief and came up with Daniel L Goldberg at Morgan Lewis who is the senior litigation counsel for the Patriots.
Daniel L. Goldberg
Assuming he is the author, the obvious question is why would the Patriots pay a large sum of money for it after Kraft said he would accept the penalties unless.......
either;
A) Bob Kraft didn't think he would get screwed as bad as he did and is looking to get his draft picks back as unlikely as it is and this is some sort of master plan......whatever.
B) There is a rift among ownership possibly, with Jonathan wanting to fight on. meh....
C) It is purely a Public Relations piece to endear Kraft with the fans again much like that press conference before training camp. Unfortunately he vacillates ( in public) between being seen walking with Goodell and condemning the "lawyers in the NFL" who attacked the Patriots.
D) ( my hope which I posted a while back) He is contacting 31 other owners ( alright 28- forget the Jets,Colts and Ravens) with a copy of this report and a note that says, " if it happened to me, it could happen to you. Just ask the Saints and now the Chiefs who got hammered for the same thing the Jets skated by on.
He will then bring up a motion at the upcoming owners meeting asking/demanding the draft picks back and make every team go on the record as supporting science or backing Goodell... Goodell's response will be that the matter is still in litigation but Kraft's answer ought to be that then the punishment ought to be stayed because a) there is no science for it and b) taking the draft pick now would cause irreparable harm, especially if Brady is vindicated.
Essentially turn Goodell's argument on him. If you can't give the draft pick (#29)back because it is in litigation, don't take it until the case is settled since you can't get the draft pick back...unless the league would give a first round compensatory next year ( not going to happen- stop laughing).........

I know the picks are gone and not coming back but deep inside I hope that maybe ownership has a little bit of Al Davis street fighter in them and are willing to get "down and dirty" and if you are going to wear the 'black cowboy hat" of the league then earn it and act like a SOB who is to be feared, not walked over.....
As Niccolo Machiavelli said ," it is better to be feared than loved"......
If not for this time but to ensure that there won't be a next time....

Unfortunately the permanent damage to the Pat's is about to be unreversable once day one of the draft comes and goes. There is no magic elixir that will bring it back. No way the court rules before then, no way Goodell comes to his senses. The only thing that Kraft could possible do is a media blitz demanding that he gets his picks back maybe in conjunction it's an actual independent investigation into both the footballs and the league. Kraft could move to fire Goodell at the owners meeting in a few weeks, but that would throw the league into a tail spin, I don't know if he would do that much damage to his own bottom line.

Not a chance in hell of happening, so basically the Pat's are screwed and there is no mechanism for unscrewing this pooch.

AtomicDawg said:

I swear, if Kraft has another one of those "sorry fans but there's nothing I can do but wallow in my own puddle of shame" PC's at the next owner's meetings, I'm gonna punch a hole in my wall.

Being from NY, it's STILL a pain in the a** to have to deal with idiotic mouth breathing Jest/Gints fans who always ask "if you weren't guilty why'd your owner accept the penalties??!!" It sounds weird when I counter with, "He thought his friend Goodell would have his back, do him a solid."

I love this team, but Defending the Wall is becoming a fulltime job. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.

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You just echoed the sentiment of all of "non-New Englanders." When you live in communities where you're surrounded by fans of other teams, it's commonplace to hear them bash the Patriots with only the superficial knowledge of deflategate.
I stopped "defending the wall" - I just kind of smirk and reply that if they read the wells report and thought that was "evidence" then I hope none of us get accused of something we didn't do.

AndyJohnson said:

"Putting the science on trial" does not mean filing a court case against science.

Putting the science on trial means appealing the ruling and ripping the science to shreds in a venue where the transcripts are often made public. How in the world do you have an opportunity to prove that you are not guilty and chose to not do it because you don't like the arbitrator. Its just your circular, flawed logic.

Whether Davis won or lost is not relevant to your claim that owners cannot sue the league. He sued. They didn't reject his case based on your belief that he is not allowed to sue, they didn't put him in jail, they didn't take his team away.

Whether you can sue is as apples to apples as it gets.

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It sure is apples to apples.

There's a thread floating around here with an article about the relocation of the Cards to LA, and in that article it was learned that there were owners who were concerned that if they fought the team's move that the owner of that team would sue the league. I wish people would stop with the nonsense that Kraft couldn't sue the league.

DarrylS said:

When you read any article on the Patriots in a national publication whether it be news or sports news, the comments following are always interesting.. usually followed by something like "Belicheat" or other such nonsense..

No matter what the outcome of any proceeding the NFL has pretty much destroyed our credibility in the court of public opinion.. that will never be made up, as the quote goes "they hate us, because they ain't us"... their network hires commentators who believe St. Louis was secretly taped, that "spygate" was much different than it really is.. and now this idiotic issue about deflated footballs. ESPN like the little "Pavlovians" they are usually follows along or piles on.

The NFL could have chosen a different path, but they chose not to.. thus this incredibly stupid state of affairs for the Patriots.

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Many fans feel that Kraft could have done a better job of counteracting the smear campaign. Instead, Kraft called Belichick a "schmuck" in 2007 and went silent in 2015 in defense of Brady, the two people most responsible for the success of the team.

Funny how in all of this nonsense about footballs there's not even a mention of the NYJFL official who was stealing game balls that were earmarked for charity.

Anything on that Wells report context site is an attempt to appease the fans that Kraft sees drifting away. I don't see it working.

I'll believe that Kraft is fighting back when I see it. That hasn't happened yet.

Mack Herron said:

I am simply raising the question Andy: Why is Kraft paying an expensive lawyer to document NFL misdeeds?

I do not assume that the suspension is solely in the hands of the court. I could see a situation where if the appeal goes to the NFL, then they negotiate the suspension. There is precedent for such negotiation and Goodell has taken some hits in this. Kraft said that he acted in Brady's interest in the past so doing so here would not be far fetched, but keeping Brady on the field would also be in his personal (team's) interest as well.

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That is a moot point because Brady is never going to admit guilt for something he didn't do, and without that the NFL won't reduce the suspension. I still think Brady is going to win especially now that Blecker and Stradley are filing amicus briefs to rebut the lies Clement and the NFL told to CA2.

Ivan said:

Blecker and Stradley are filing amicus briefs to rebut the lies Clement and the NFL told to CA2.

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Once those are filed, then what happens? Is there some sort of requirement that the briefs are heard and dealt with? Or, Will there be a simple statement that they will be taken under advisement, never to be addressed again??

fgssand said:

Once those are filed, then what happens? Is there some sort of requirement that the briefs are heard and dealt with? Or, Will there be a simple statement that they will be taken under advisement, never to be addressed again??

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Hopefully the panel will realize they have been lied to and will respond accordingly, however it's impossible to know how they will rule.

Come to think of it the Patriots should have Goldberg file an amicus brief with the court, that would really piss the league off.

varjao said:

nope, the only people who access that site are us.

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Yup, keeping the choir in tune. Nobody else is listening. Way too little, too late, and is nothing more than Patriot fan damage control.

OhExaulted1 said:

The arguments plain and simple. Yes, he could have appealed. No, he would not have gotten a reduction in the penalty and the picks are gone.

The rest is just a dog and pony show. Everyone's feelings are irrelevant. Somehow people here actually think if Kraft fought the penalty it would have changed the hearts and minds outside of the 5 1/2 NE states or something.

Yeah, OK.

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An appeal that resulted in no reduction of penalty would have been an important step to getting it heard in court. It also would have given him an avenue to wage a PR campaign against the punishment and Goodell. And finally, you don't know what the outcome would because Kraft never even tried.

Kraft has one hand in the Patriots corner and both feet firmly planted in the NFL's corner, that's why he folded and that's why people are rightly criticizing him. He valued his membership in the NFL more highly than the well being of the franchise.

Putting on my Happy Talk hat, one possible interpretation of the site and its continuous updates is that perhaps, just perhaps, the Krafts are using it to signal to the other 31 that they are no longer open for business in the "Please sir, may I have another?" mode they've served in the 2 major Patriots brouhahas. Their time of being a compliant victim is over. Stop the schemes.

I doubt it, but it's possible.

Don't know how to do a tweet. So here is a screenshot. Anyone see this

TeamFirst said:

Don't know how to do a tweet. So here is a screenshot. Anyone see this

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Yeah, they're talking about the Jets game in October where the officials overinflated the footballs. JJ texted his fiance afterwards talking about how the refs screwed up and that the footballs should have been at 13 psi.

The Patriots are noting that he did not blame McNally for the overinflation.

When you think about it, this really takes a lot of the steam out of the "Deflator" text. If McNally was calling himself "The Deflator"early in 2014, then that means the "scheme" was already in place. And if it was already in place, then why isn't Jastremski livid with McNally for not doing his job prior to that Jets game?

How is this travesty in a federal court?