NFL's Integrity* on display again: league hid $100M+ from players to keep salary cap down

Now that Roger has cost them more money and publically embarresed them (again....and again) maybe the owners will finally wake up.

Just over $2 million an owner for them to look like A-Holes. I doubt the owners think that's cool. That's an average dead money hit.

robertweathers said:

From the GQ article a couple of years ago.



This is what the owners wanted. They didn't want a peacekeeper or someone who reached across the aisle to broker partnerships and a win-win. They wanted an individual who was driven and determined to protect their collective business interest, leverage and power at all costs.

Roger Goodell's Season from Hell

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And, in doing so, they are extremely short sighted. They clearly were not thinking of their long term interests or the long term good of the game. In the short term, they have reaped the benefits. But this man is in no way good for the game in the long term.

OhExaulted1 said:

Now that Roger has cost them more money and publically embarresed them (again....and again) maybe the owners will finally wake up.

Just over $2 million an owner for them to look like A-Holes. I doubt the owners think that's cool. That's an average dead money hit.

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Why? The owners are just as much to blame. This is what they want.

robertweathers said:

Doesn't make sense for a $11b enterprise to squirrel away ~$120m.

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These are the same people who hide individual team profits by paying themselves and their family members full salaries out of the till, and then cry poverty to the players come CBA negotiations time.

Deus Irae said:

Remember, this is the "full 32" that Kraft chose over his team, his coaches and his players.




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Hater! The plan is underway just wait

But...but...but..what will we tell the children?? Hey Rog, what's up with our hero???

Deus Irae said:

These are the same people who hide individual team profits by paying themselves and their family members full salaries out of the till, and then cry poverty to the players come CBA negotiations time.

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For laughs look at the finances for the Detroit Lions. What a shell game they are playing over there....

KontradictioN said:

And, in doing so, they are extremely short sighted. They clearly were not thinking of their long term interests or the long term good of the game. In the short term, they have reaped the benefits. But this man is in no way good for the game in the long term.

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What about London? Mexico City? China? 18 Game$!!!!

KontradictioN said:

Agreed. Expect a very extended lockout once the current CBA expires. I'm going to love it too.

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And this is the state of things. More and more core fans are rooting for the league to fail. Not sure this is a sustainable business model.

Maybe all big business is this way, I don't know. I'm not that familiar with it. But my goodness, the NFL over the past few years has given every impression of being a totally sleazy and greedy and corrupt organization. From the way they've handled (i.e., tried to control) the CTE research, to the Ray Rice situation, to the ridiculous deflate gate nonsense, to this, at every turn the owners and the NFL main office people (headed by Goodell of course) have looked as deceptive and wicked as anything Bernie Sanders could ever have dreamed up about corporate America.

Deus Irae said:

These are the same people who hide individual team profits by paying themselves and their family members full salaries out of the till, and then cry poverty to the players come CBA negotiations time.

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The more you see and learn from the nfl leadership and owners, the harder is it to root for them to be successful.


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OhExaulted1 said:

Now that Roger has cost them more money and publically embarresed them (again....and again) maybe the owners will finally wake up.

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Are you kidding? The owners love sleazy maneuvers like this by the POS commissioner. He tried to steal ~$50 million from the players. You think the owners are upset about that? So ya, they got caught, but they aren't losing anything except something that wasn't rightfully their's in the first place

It's like when a 5 year old takes an extra cookie from the jar and his mom says "put it back." He is disappointed his plan didn't work, but he's not actually out anything and he will certainly try again next time he thinks he can get away with it.

Well, as Roger said, he is all about Integrity of the Shield.

OhExaulted1 said:

Now that Roger has cost them more money and publically embarresed them (again....and again) maybe the owners will finally wake up.

Just over $2 million an owner for them to look like A-Holes. I doubt the owners think that's cool. That's an average dead money hit.

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I see your point, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the genesis of the scheme resided with some owners. I think Goodell is an unethical, intellectually-lacking scumbag, but the more time passes I believe the owners make him look honest by comparison. Before everyone goes bugf###, please reread my entire prior sentence. To use an old cliche, they say jump and he asks how high.

The league will hide behind the plausible deniability of it being a simple accounting mistake when in fact anybody with half a brain knows that this exceeds "more likely than not" into flat out criminal offense. Judged by their own standard of justice this 120 million infraction would cost the owners a 120 million each, their first born child and the word integrity being banned from their lexicon for eternity.

Why do people think this is a matter of incompetence? It isn't, it was as deliberate as it gets and the owners knew about it and supported it. Imo the players should wait until camp and walk out with the condition that everyone in the league office who knew about this or should have known be fired. The players are never able to last long when it comes to strikes and lockouts but that's because the owners are playing for billions, it would be really interesting to see how much revenue the owners would be willing to forfeit just to keep Roger and his cohorts. I doubt there is an owner so committed to Goodell they would be willing to lose games and revenue over him.

If I was the NFLPA I would not sign another CBA without getting guaranteed contracts. The NFL is the only one of the professional sports league, where a contract isn't really worth the paper its written on. Guaranteed contracts would be tough on the teams and the salary cap, but if I'm the NFLPA, I'm not signing any CBA without it.

FreeTedWilliams said:

If I was the NFLPA I would not sign another CBA without getting guaranteed contracts. The NFL is the only one of the professional sports league, where a contract isn't really worth the paper its written on. Guaranteed contracts would be tough on the teams and the salary cap, but if I'm the NFLPA, I'm not signing any CBA without it.

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What do you gain with guaranteed contracts? The money going to the guy who is guaranteed and is injured or cut will be taken away from the guy who can play. It's a capped league guarantees only move the money from one player to another.

AndyJohnson said:

What do you gain with guaranteed contracts? The money going to the guy who is guaranteed and is injured or cut will be taken away from the guy who can play. It's a capped league guarantees only move the money from one player to another.

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Injured players still get paid under the current system. Its the second string tackle who gets cut for the rookie locked up for 4 years on the cheap that needs the guaranteed contracts. Don't confuse what the union wants with what is best for the NFL as a league. People do this all the time with unions such as the teacher's union, they want to ask the union what is best for the students, when the definition of a union is to do what's best for your members, not the entity that you are a part of. The NFLPA needs to fight for guaranteed contracts for their members, if that is good or bad for the NFL as a whole is irrelevant.

The union should probably call a strike next season. You're at a point where public opinion is fully against the NFL. There's really no better time to do it.