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the whole OL became a game of whack-a-mole........new OL coach must have been overwhelmed and in an unenviable position of no where to go but down

earlier in the season there were references to the genius of a rotating OL.....a week ago, we got a good taste of the downside
 
I want to know where Reiss is getting his information/intuition on strongly believing Dante returning in 2016

I thought he said Brian Daboll will most likely get the OL job.
 
I thought he said Brian Daboll will most likely get the OL job.

After re-reading it, I misread Reiss' article.

On the offensive line, barring a surprise Dante Scarnecchia return, tight ends coach Brian Daboll would seem to be the obvious fit. It was Daboll who worked closely with Scarnecchia in 2013 to help ease the transition to DeGuglielmo.

In the article he said Daboll is the obvious fit and would be surprising if Scar came back.
 
The list of mistakes in this game (and the coaching failures in the end of the season) is so big that if we list we would look like the lolphins, not the Patriots, so even though I'm atheist I tend to believe that some things are not meant to be, or not in that specific moment. It was not the Patriots year, it wasn't meant to be. We got so impressed with the beginning of the season and 16-0 talks that all of a sudden 12-4 looks bad. It's not, even though it hurts to know we could have done better and ultimately lost HFA and then another SB appearance.

The Eagles game was a **** up but there are always one of those games in a season, Jets playing at home with playoff aspirations will always be a tough game and Miami won us for the 3rd time in a row in Miami so we should conclude that playing in Miami is tough, it has been in recent years. We won the Giants by the skin of the teeth, that was a very difficult game, let's swap this game with the Eagles for a moment and we still end 12-4.

The major blunder for me was Belichick sending Harper to field that punt in those circumstances, that was almost arrogant and it bit him in the arse. OK the refs, ok McDaniels and his playcalling, ok Denver got lucky but that game was almost in the books and we allowed them to comeback with a turnover originated by a BAD decision. Literally one play that changed the whole season from that moment on.

It all culminated with one of the worst playoff games I ever seen. I wonder if this team was overrated to begin with.
 
"Just remember that one screw-up can end it for all of us."
-Bill Belichick in "Do Your Job"

In this case it was one screw-up repeated dozens of times.

How in the world was this not fixed at some point, since it started on the first play of the game?????
 
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earlier in the season there were references to the genius of a rotating OL.....a week ago, we got a good taste of the downside

Honestly, I never really bought into it as being genius. I thought it was playing with fire.
 
It was the first thing I said in the postgame thread. Completely inexcusable at this level of the game IMO. Even more so against the team we were playing and at this stage in the season.
 
Again I ask. Why was Andrews replaced? Things starting going bad as soon as that happened.
 
if that was the problem then why was David Andrews not in there was he injuried ? i dont remember he started 11 games and played pretty good
 
earlier in the season there were references to the genius of a rotating OL....

Earlier in the season there were threads started on who we should trade, since it was seen as such as position of strength. If you had told people that OL would be our biggest downfall, no one would've believed you.
 
Again I ask. Why was Andrews replaced? Things starting going bad as soon as that happened.

It happened in the 2nd Bills game, and fairly early on. I believe the consensus was that Andrews was getting overwhelmed and was partially responsible for missed calls/assignments.
 
This has been noted in the Matt Light thread. It's no doubt the reason why Googs got fired.

Because our front office and especially BB are known for their knee-jerk reactions, right ?

Googe was definitely not fired for what happened in Denver but for the sum of all things that went wrong the last two years. This becomes especially obvious because there are several sources that claim he was already expecting the team to move on at the end of the year long before the AFCCG. If you ask me he was not a good fit. He could not build up the OL he envisioned because he never got the keys to run the unit with the spectre of Scar hanging around and working players out during draft time. And there was no reason to change the philosophy of how we build our OL in the first place.

In short, he didn't seem to be a good fit and it is baffling to me why Daboll became TE coach instead of taking over the OL after being an understudy for Scar for an entire year.
 
It happened in the 2nd Bills game, and fairly early on. I believe the consensus was that Andrews was getting overwhelmed and was partially responsible for missed calls/assignments.

And despite people want to do some revisionist history on it because of what happened at the end of the season it was the right call to replace Andrews at that point. And, quite honestly, Stork didn't play much worse than any of the other linemen throughout the year. Unfortunately, for him his return almost coincided with the collapse of our offense after we lost Lewis and Edelman so correlation will not be his friend.
 
And despite people want to do some revisionist history on it because of what happened at the end of the season it was the right call to replace Andrews at that point. And, quite honestly, Stork didn't play much worse than any of the other linemen throughout the year. Unfortunately, for him his return almost coincided with the collapse of our offense after we lost Lewis and Edelman so correlation will not be his friend.

I agree that aspect certainly didn't help Stork, although he definitely seemed to have taken a step back so it's hard to know who the real player is.

I'm guessing that he plays closer to his first season than his second, though. Andrews is a fine backup and someone to keep on the 8-9-10 man OL next year.
 
The major blunder for me was Belichick sending Harper to field that punt in those circumstances, that was almost arrogant and it bit him in the arse.

How is that arrogant, specifically? It was a mistake that probably seemed like the best decision at the time based on about a hundred factors he had to consider.

People, when Belichick makes a mistake, no need to knee-jerk it to "arrogance." That's what the idiots at ESPN want you to do, as it means they've shut down your frontal cortex and implanted their stupid meme in your brain.
 
The list of mistakes in this game (and the coaching failures in the end of the season) is so big that if we list we would look like the lolphins, not the Patriots, so even though I'm atheist I tend to believe that some things are not meant to be, or not in that specific moment. It was not the Patriots year, it wasn't meant to be. We got so impressed with the beginning of the season and 16-0 talks that all of a sudden 12-4 looks bad. It's not, even though it hurts to know we could have done better and ultimately lost HFA and then another SB appearance.

The Eagles game was a **** up but there are always one of those games in a season, Jets playing at home with playoff aspirations will always be a tough game and Miami won us for the 3rd time in a row in Miami so we should conclude that playing in Miami is tough, it has been in recent years. We won the Giants by the skin of the teeth, that was a very difficult game, let's swap this game with the Eagles for a moment and we still end 12-4.

The major blunder for me was Belichick sending Harper to field that punt in those circumstances, that was almost arrogant and it bit him in the arse. OK the refs, ok McDaniels and his playcalling, ok Denver got lucky but that game was almost in the books and we allowed them to comeback with a turnover originated by a BAD decision. Literally one play that changed the whole season from that moment on.

It all culminated with one of the worst playoff games I ever seen. I wonder if this team was overrated to begin with.
How does who you choose to return a punt when your punt returners are injured have anything to do with arrogance?
 
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