OT: Cam Newton & the race card

primetime · Jan 28, 2016

Silver Blue&Red said:
Please. Just stop. Do you really think racism is white people against black people??? Right there is your problem. You've got issues. I'd say more, but I wouldn't want to cause any "Black tears"

i actually don't think you'd say more tbh

Snake Eyes · Jan 28, 2016

primetime said:
imo it's cool how white people have decided that there's a certain level of inequality that black people should just accept because it's bothersome to hear about it

Exactly what inequity are people demanding he accept? You're literally making this crap up.

Spiral · Jan 28, 2016

primetime said:
imo it's cool how white people have decided that there's a certain level of inequality that black people should just accept because it's bothersome to hear about it

...white people have decided...

Would you call that a generalization? Or maybe a stereotype?

Tunescribe · Jan 28, 2016

eom said:
how does a black guy act?

Joining the Screen Actors Guild provides valuable connections. Some get their start in summer stock theater to build a resume. Much depends on natural ability, though, helped along by early experience in school. It's a crapshoot, really.

fnordcircle · Jan 28, 2016

1960Pats said:
Everyone doesn't like it. Learn to deal with the complaints.

Not everyone learns to deal with the complaints. Deal with the complaints about the complaints.

Silver Blue&Red · Jan 28, 2016

Everyone keeps bring up not liking Cam because he celebrates. I don't think people hate him for it. Some criticize him for it, sure. Some criticize TB for "crying to the refs", Rodger for his "Double check", Tebow for showing his religion...... Players get criticized, what the hell has anyone ever said bad about Cam? They don't like his taunting celebrations? So what? He does it, some don't like it. So what? But, because he's black? Please, that's just paranoid , insecure, over reacting. IMO. And for those feeding the flames of racism for that, are just looking to feed into racism, not stop it. It's OK to dislike people for what they do, No matter what color they are.

ausbacker · Jan 28, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
Mike and Mike this morning, with replacement doofuses in place of the regular doofuses was all about this. Ryan Clark was there.
The 3 basically concluded that there is no reason to dislike Newton except that he is black.
Example: "Tom Brady celebrates, so you can't say you don't like Newton because he does"

I can only imagine the orgasmic pleasure this brought that bumbling idiot Jemele Hill.

Jackson 2 · Jan 28, 2016

ausbacker said:
I can only imagine the orgasmic pleasure this brought that bumbling idiot Jemele Hill.

That's her idiot partner Michael Smith's job. It's odd, but in the past I've even mildly enjoyed both of them separately at times, not always, but together I can stand about 3 seconds worth of them. Horrid.

ausbacker · Jan 28, 2016

Jackson 2 said:
That's her idiot partner Michael Smith's job. It's odd, but in the past I've even mildly enjoyed both of them separately at times, not always, but together I can stand about 3 seconds worth of them. Horrid.

They're as bad as each other and one of the contributing reasons I don't watch ESPN shows anymore.

thecore762 · Jan 28, 2016

Rooting for the Cats, I don't care what Cam said. Hoping for the Panthers to get their trophy and pound the Donkeys badly after the Von Miller comments, he deserves to be humbled.

everlong · Jan 28, 2016

Jackson 2 said:
And the current leading presidential candidate for 2016 has forged a campaign largely using the race card, so, while the issue has improved, it's still all around us to some degree.

I will concede that's a valid counterpoint.

everlong · Jan 28, 2016

letekro said:
Your comparison between Newton, whose worst crime is apparently a 2 second dance after scoring a touchdown and smiling a lot on the field, and Gastineau, who was a maniacal steroid freak and convicted wife-beater, speaks volumes.

The ad hominem attack always better the discussion.

He was one example of many I gave including Aaron Rodgers who's belt display is about the same. The point isn't the celebrations. The point is saying that it isn't people having an issue with the celebrations it's that it's a hidden racist agenda which by and large is crap.

goheels22002 · Jan 28, 2016

Cam's feeling the pressure of having to beat a 39-year-old, duck-throwing, pizza-hawking geezer.

If he loses, he'll set Civil Rights in America back 50 years.

everlong · Jan 28, 2016

meatface said:
people bring up Edelman being a white wide receiver all the time and to think that at least some of the criticism of Newton doesnt come from him being black is naive. Black Qb's always seem to get called too showy and for some reason unless they never speak they get called self promoting, bad teamates and bad for the sport.
Wilson,
RGIII,
Kapernick,
meanwhile Rodgers called out his teammates back in december and people either praised him or didnt care.
Im sure you will find some reason to say that all of this is dumb and those criticisms are all justified but come on do you think Gronk would get lauded as the lovable goofball for all the stuff he does if he was black?

Kapernick and RGIII get killed a little more than most QBs not because of their race but because they showed extreme promise and then fell hard. Most first round busts black or white simply get killed but those two perhaps more because of their short window of success.

Wilson is almost universally loved. If Brady retired and the Patriots somehow ended up with Wilson as his replacement I would be celebrating.

Gronk with Gronk's personality would be celebrated black or white. Clinton Portis although in a different goofy way was celebrated as one example.

Triumph · Jan 28, 2016

Silver Blue&Red said:
Everyone keeps bring up not liking Cam because he celebrates. I don't think people hate him for it. Some criticize him for it, sure. Some criticize TB for "crying to the refs", Rodger for his "Double check", Tebow for showing his religion...... Players get criticized, what the hell has anyone ever said bad about Cam? They don't like his taunting celebrations? So what? He does it, some don't like it. So what? But, because he's black? Please, that's just paranoid , insecure, over reacting. IMO. And for those feeding the flames of racism for that, are just looking to feed into racism, not stop it. It's OK to dislike people for what they do, No matter what color they are.

Its the PC crowds fault.

Theyve ruined the country over the last 8 years and the NFL is next.

eom · Jan 28, 2016

thecore762 said:
Rooting for the Cats, I don't care what Cam said. Hoping for the Panthers to get their trophy and pound the Donkeys badly after the Von Miller comments, he deserves to be humbled.

stop being racist against von miller

Triumph · Jan 28, 2016

The black Panthers?

Its too perfect.

KDPPatsfan85 · Jan 28, 2016

meatface · Jan 28, 2016

Triumph said:
Its the PC crowds fault.

Theyve ruined the country over the last 8 years and the NFL is next.

Yeah sure

meatface · Jan 28, 2016

everlong said:
Kapernick and RGIII get killed a little more than most QBs not because of their race but because they showed extreme promise and then fell hard. Most first round busts black or white simply get killed but those two perhaps more because of their short window of success.

Wilson is almost universally loved. If Brady retired and the Patriots somehow ended up with Wilson as his replacement I would be celebrating.

Gronk with Gronk's personality would be celebrated black or white. Clinton Portis although in a different goofy way was celebrated as one example.

I'm sure race plays no factor whatsoever. I guess ignorance is bliss but if it was you probably wouldn't be whining about cam so much

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