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On my way to Denver now. Flying out of Gate 12. Much better than Gate 18.
 
My biggest concern tomorrow is the rush defense. It did not look good vs KC, as their line more often than not had the push forward setting up manageable third downs. If pats rush holds up I don't see them losing barring flukey plays
 
despite everyones negativity, I just feel we are the better team on both sides of the ball. and if we play our game we should beat denver. our offense when healthy should be able to score on their defense and Manning is due for a pick or two

Agree! Sometimes it just comes down to the better team, the Patriots,winning!It's not being disrespectful or underestimating the Broncos. I think the team has been respectful, but it is what it is. I don't think their defense will get run over, but I think the pats match up with them pretty well on both sides of the ball. I think even last game we were better for nearly the entire game up until mid way in the 4th quarter when we fell apart.
 
So cool my son is downtown in Denver at Ted Montana grill with Patriots All Access, got to meet Bob Hraft. Im headed to katie mullens for the Patriots club party.

I'll probably see you there. I'll be the handsome fellow wearing clothes.
 
My biggest concern tomorrow is the rush defense. It did not look good vs KC, as their line more often than not had the push forward setting up manageable third downs. If pats rush holds up I don't see them losing barring flukey plays

I wonder though how much that had to do with alex smiths scrambling abilities. and trying to decipher the read option. same with the pass rush. Manning doesnt offer much of a threat of running so I would hope the front 7 can pin their ears back and get after the passer and rbs
 
I wonder though how much that had to do with alex smiths scrambling abilities. and trying to decipher the read option. same with the pass rush. Manning doesnt offer much of a threat of running so I would hope the front 7 can pin their ears back and get after the passer and rbs
It means everything. Aside from the yards directly from scrambling, we know the contain philosophy Bill has against running QBs. Now it's simply "Go Get Him" and be ready, if he falls and gets back up smack him into never doing it again.
 
despite everyones negativity, I just feel we are the better team on both sides of the ball. and if we play our game we should beat denver. our offense when healthy should be able to score on their defense and Manning is due for a pick or two
But you know these games go about in a weird way regardless of the talent esp on the road. I was supremely confident of the AFCCG vs ravens at home and the way it turned out to be surprising. I am exactly the opposite this game so I hope I am surprised again.
 
17 hours. Hope Brady and his cohorts sleep well, and I hope Manning and his cohorts toss and turn with nightmares all nite.
Whose gonna start the game thread?
 
How about the most obvious? :

1) Any of our injured players can't push through

2) Inability to run the ball and win in the trenches offensively

I have always believed you have to win the fistfight to win the game and need to run the ball to win the fistfight, this version of the Patriots has disabused me of that notion. Actually it goes back to the second half of last year but they have shown they can manipulate defenses and gas them instead of pummeling them. They go up against great front 7s and make them cover the whole field without relief and they have the talent to make big plays and put up points. They haven't had to win a game running the ball and they haven't been beaten by a run game all season, this will be about Brady vs Denver's defense, if Brady has a good game the Patriots win, if he is off Denver has a chance, I just don't see him playing poorly in this game. They still have to play well in the trenches but if Brady plays well their run game won't matter, nor will Denver's.
 
despite everyones negativity, I just feel we are the better team on both sides of the ball. and if we play our game we should beat denver. our offense when healthy should be able to score on their defense and Manning is due for a pick or two


Wow.


This is the most positive I have seen this place in my time here and you think it's negative? I felt like the haters disappeared.
 
But you know these games go about in a weird way regardless of the talent esp on the road. I was supremely confident of the AFCCG vs ravens at home and the way it turned out to be surprising. I am exactly the opposite this game so I hope I am surprised again.

true, I just feel like I would be more nervous with Brock osweiler playing than manning. Its one thing to beat a steelers team missing their #1 WR, 1st and 2nd string RB and their QB with an injured arm. and BARELY beat them. with manning looking horrible on 2 weeks of rest

its another to beat a patriots squad with their full complement of weapons available and a one week rested manning.
 
My nerves are kicking in.

Would have felt much better had this been a home game.

Defense HAS to get off the field on 3rd downs! The longer they are out there, the more that elevation will wear them down.

In my gut I just feel bad about what we will see out of the officiating in this one.

I will never forget the 2005 divisional round and the Bull Sh!t PI called on Samuel that gave them there first TD. Samuel had position on the receiver, was going for the ball. It wasn't one of those turn your head at the last minute and jump. Samuel looked like he was the receiver on the route. The receiver literally climbed up Samuel's back. When I saw the flag I immediately thought Offensive PI. What was worse was the ref did not throw the flag immediately, it was like he was talked into it by the crowd.

I am scared we will see a lot of home calls tomorrow. I know officials are suppose to be impartial, but lets be real. NO ONE WHO IS NOT A PATS FAN WANTS TO SEE THE PATS WIN TOMORROW!!!!

I can't help but believe some of these refs might give Peyton a little help when he needs it.
 
Scouting Report: What you need to know about Patriots-Broncos

WHEN THE BRONCOS RUN THE BALL

This is the unquestioned strength of the Denver offense, at least at this point of the season. C.J. Anderson and Ronnie Hillman form a really nice 1-2 punch, and as the Denver offense has evolved over the course of the last year, they have both asserted themselves as key parts of the Broncos’ success. In the regular season, Denver finished 17th in the league when it came to running the ball at 107.4 rushing yards per game, but that isn’t really indicative of where they are as a team right now. Denver broke 100 yards on the ground as a team in six of its last seven games in the regular season, and finished with 109 yards Sunday against Pittsburgh. Hillman is a 5-foot-9, 200-pounder who averaged 56 rushing yards per game and four yards per carry over the last six games of the regular season, while the 5-foot-8, 224-pound Anderson (who had the 48-yard run for a touchdown in the extra session against the Patriots that lifted the Broncos over New England in the overtime contest between the two teams in November) had 66 yards per game and a whopping six yards per carry in the same stretch. The return of Dont’a Hightower to full strength should play a big role in helping slow the Denver run game — if the Patriots can at least minimize the impact of Anderson and Hillman, that will go a long way toward winning this game.

UNDER THE RADAR PERFORMER: The Denver offensive line. While we’ve written a ton about the struggles of the New England offensive line over the last few weeks — as well as the fact that the group played well last Saturday against the Chiefs — the fact remains that the front that will have the most on its shoulders come Sunday is the group assigned to protect Peyton and the rest of the Broncos’ offense. If that group can get a push when it comes to run blocking against a New England defensive front that will be out to slow down the Denver ground game by any means necessary, that can potentially change the face of this game. If the Broncos can get the ground game cranked up, it’ll open things up just slightly for Manning and the passing game. And if the veteran gets enough time to throw, he’s still capable of putting his receivers in good situations. Left tackle Ryan Harris, left guard Evan Mathis, center Matt Paradis, right guard Louis Vasquez and right tackle Michael Schofield will all have a lot on their plate — if they can rise to the challenge on Sunday, it could go a long way toward determining the outcome of this one.
considering how the chiefs ran on us..this is a big issue we need to solve.
 
But you know these games go about in a weird way regardless of the talent esp on the road. I was supremely confident of the AFCCG vs ravens at home and the way it turned out to be surprising. I am exactly the opposite this game so I hope I am surprised again.

Anything can happen but the confidence comes from flat out being better. Belichick and Brady against Manning and Kubiak with these supporting casts is advantage Patriots and the field doesn't offset that. Like last year's AFCCG the Patriots are just better and that should be enough.
 
true, I just feel like I would be more nervous with Brock osweiler playing than manning. Its one thing to beat a steelers team missing their #1 WR, 1st and 2nd string RB and their QB with an injured arm. and BARELY beat them. with manning looking horrible on 2 weeks of rest

its another to beat a patriots squad with their full complement of weapons available and a one week rested manning.
Well..manning can get them in good and bad plays. Osweiler would just run what kubiak called but of course he can run the bootleg and deep throws effectively. Goes both ways.
 
werent most of those yards after hightower went out though? I think it was 2.9 when he was in
 
They've lost horrific games in Denver for 5 decades.

Fitzy nailed it when he called it the Patriots' own Bermuda Triangle.

This is absolutely true. And if worst comes to worst, I would not be shocked if this continued tomorrow.

However, if any Patriots team can buck the trend, then I am confident that this current team is capable of doing so tomorrow afternoon.
 
Chief's RB were 23-91, an average of 3.96. Smith's rushing yards don't count for obvious reasons.
 
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