OT: Bills hire female special teams coach

bbobbo · Jan 21, 2016

tasmlab said:
Maybe I lack imagination, but I would think it would be difficult for a woman to be on the field with a whistle trying to boss around Ray Rice and Suh and the like and be taken seriously by players.

A woman in a closet analyzing film seems plausible.

not many examples, but nancy lieberman coached a d-league team in 2010. here is what one of her players said:

Coaching D-League team is natural fit for Nancy Lieberman

Former Oklahoma player Keith Clark, now a member of the Legends squad, said playing for Lieberman is like playing for any coach.

"As soon as I heard she was our coach, I googled her," Clark said. "I was impressed with everything I read about her. It isn't a stretch that she is coaching a men's team. She knows the game. It was really no big deal for me. My mom was one of my first coaches."

Clark said Lieberman earned the respect of her players and opponents.

"Players would come up and ask me how it feels to play for a girl coach," Clark said. "No different than playing for a man. To them it's shocking, but to us, she's coach."

Tulsa coach Nate Tibbetts has respect for Lieberman.

"I've gotten to know her a little bit," he said. "She knows her stuff. She wouldn't have gotten the job if she didn't. She's done a wonderful job, and I think her guys enjoy playing for her."

lieberman's an assistant coach for the sacramento kings now.

meatface · Jan 21, 2016

bbobbo said:
not many examples, but nancy lieberman coached a d-league team in 2010. here is what one of her players said:

Coaching D-League team is natural fit for Nancy Lieberman

lieberman's an assistant coach for the sacramento kings now.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO woman coaching men succesfully!!!!!!!!! Society isnt ready!!! Its almost like insecure people are projecting their issues because a girl knows more about football than they do. Whats next desegregating sports?

Tunescribe · Jan 21, 2016

meatface said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO woman coaching men succesfully!!!!!!!!! Society isnt ready!!! Its almost like insecure people are projecting their issues because a girl knows more about football than they do. Whats next desegregating sports?

Haley · Jan 21, 2016

tasmlab said:
Maybe I lack imagination, but I would think it would be difficult for a woman to be on the field with a whistle trying to boss around Ray Rice and Suh and the like and be taken seriously by players.

By the same token, in what way do you see a male coach physically able to dominate a player like Suh? Do you think Adam Gase can take him in a fight? An arm wrestle? How do you think that works if not through physical domination? Personally, I don't think players are managed through physical domination. If that were the case, all the head coaches would be in the hospital.

primetime · Jan 21, 2016

Haley said:
By the same token, in what way do you see a male coach physically able to dominate a player like Suh? Do you think Adam Gase can take him in a fight? An arm wrestle? How do you think that works if not through physical domination? Personally, I don't think players are managed through physical domination. If that were the case, all the head coaches would be in the hospital.

Manboobs aside, Belichick's like half the size of Dion Lewis, let alone Malcolm Brown or Bryan Stork. Yet they all seem to respect him despite the fact his football experience was as a backup on a D-3 team. Funny, that.

meatface · Jan 21, 2016

Joker said:
Yup...I agree 100%.Now name the woman alive today that can fill that prerequisite. I'll wait.

Joker said:
OK,Mr. "We Are The World"...I wasn't going to reply to this ridiculous bunch of lies because I have no interest in arguing PC bullshyt but...let's take what YOU say and just pull an arbitrary NFL team out of thin air that no one even knows much about or cares about...NEVER MIND THE ONES WE DO THAT DESTROY YOUR PREMISE. Here's the staff of the Tenn Titans..

Head Coach/Tight Ends – Mike Mularkey-Played in the NFL
Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator – **** LeBeau-Played in the NFL

Offensive Coaches

Offensive Coordinator – Terry Robiskie-Played in the NFL
Quarterbacks – Jason Michael-Div 1 college QB
Running Backs – Sylvester Croom-Played in the NFL
Wide Receivers – Vacant
Assistant Wide Receivers – Jason Tucker-Played NFL and CFL
Assistant Tight Ends and Offensive Line – Arthur Smith-Division 1 college player
Offensive Line – Bob Bostad
Assistant Offensive Line – Mike Sullivan-ex-NFL ofdfensive lineman
Offensive Assistant – Luke Steckel-College LB at Princeton-son of Les Steckel, famous NFL coach

Defensive Coaches

Defensive Line – Vacant
Assistant Defensive Line – Nick Eason-Played in NFL
Linebackers – Lou Spanos-Div 1 college player
Defensive Backs − Louie Cioffi
Assistant Secondary – Steve Brown-NFL player
Defensive Quality Control – Cannon Matthews-

Special Teams Coaches

Special Teams Coordinator – Bobby April-Div 1 college
Assistant Special Teams – Steve Hoffman-NFL player

Next time...before you jump off the cliff without a parachute, try a bona fide source as a reference...like THIS one

Pro Football History.com

The NFL is overflowing with former players in the coaching ranks. Your post is ludicrous. Yes Mike Singletary was a bust. Tom Landry a bust? Bart Starr? **** Butkus?...aaahhh, why bother, you have your PC agenda to promote...go ahead, give a list of qualified women coaches you know about that can teach NFL linebackers, defensive backs and lineman "the proper techniques" from their wealth of experience..

In a rather funny twist on your argument she is actually replacing a former player. So maybe you should really be complaining about how woman are taking away mens jobs. Five things to know about Bills' Kathryn Smith, first NFL female coach

meatface · Jan 21, 2016

primetime said:
Manboobs aside, Belichick's like half the size of Dion Lewis, let alone Malcolm Brown or Bryan Stork. Yet they all seem to respect him despite the fact his football experience was as a backup on a D-3 team. Funny, that.

he must arm wrestle all his players before they join. That's probably why we can never draft well at wide receiver he just cant beat any of the good wide receiver draftees in an arm wrestling match.

jays52 · Jan 21, 2016

tasmlab said:
Maybe I lack imagination, but I would think it would be difficult for a woman to be on the field with a whistle trying to boss around Ray Rice and Suh and the like and be taken seriously by players.

A woman in a closet analyzing film seems plausible.

I would think that Ernie Adams wouldn't exactly intimidate the Richard Seymours of the world, either, but considering he can offer the players knowledge that will make them better I would imagine they would be very receptive to his words. I see it as being no different with Smith. If she brings knowledge and contributions to the team that makes them better both individually and as a whole she will be respected and listened to. If not then she won't and will be out of a job. It seems pretty cut and dry in my mind. Can she do the job or not? Gender is completely irrelevant.

Oh, and have you not seen a properly motivated smart chick latch on to something before? The female lion is a SAVAGE.

Ring 6 · Jan 21, 2016

jays52 said:
I would think that Ernie Adams wouldn't exactly intimidate the Richard Seymours of the world, either, but considering he can offer the players knowledge that will make them better I would imagine they would be very receptive to his words. I see it as being no different with Smith. If she brings knowledge and contributions to the team that makes them better both individually and as a whole she will be respected and listened to. If not then she won't and will be out of a job. It seems pretty cut and dry in my mind. Can she do the job or not? Gender is completely irrelevant.

Oh, and have you not seen a properly motivated smart chick latch on to something before? The female lion is a SAVAGE.

Being smart, and a good leader and having more knowledge about the job the person under you does gains a hell of a lot more respect, and causes them to follow you much more than I am bigger stronger and could kick your butt.

Angelpats · Jan 21, 2016

Deus Irae said:
Without genetic manipulation, it's probably not going to happen unless we get a genetic freak. Male/Female physical differences are usually accentuated at the elite levels, not minimized.

Dues, I agree but we only need one out of two billion to represent us, but if there is one I think she might play baseball.

jays52 · Jan 21, 2016

Angelpats said:
Dues, I agree but we only need one out of two billion to represent us, but if there is one I think she might play baseball.

Here's a good argument killer for that one: Ronda Rousey (loss to Holm included), would rip Floyd Mayweather's arm off and beat him over the head with it inside of 30 seconds in an actual fight.

Haley · Jan 21, 2016

jays52 said:
I would think that Ernie Adams wouldn't exactly intimidate the Richard Seymours of the world, either

Round 1: Adams vs Seymour

FIGHT!

patchick · Jan 21, 2016

Maybe I'm missing something, but it sure looks to me like the Bills have made a totally routine minor promotion of a valued staff member who has been steadily working her way up the ladder over the course of a dozen years.

Bella*chick · Jan 21, 2016

Tunescribe said:
Come on. Don't you think Eastern European patriarchal society had something to do with that? I'd think you would be stridently opposed to socio-political gender discrimination.

No, it was that way in the good ole USA too. Look up coach, I think it was Don Peters. Of course, he was banned from coaching for having sex with his gymnasts, but I digress.

I'm not saying anything one way or another, just that no one cared at all that men were coaching girls gymnastics. No one said anything about relating to them or having experience doing the specific moves or the culture of girls. And why would that be? Because they are men and all men are just allowed to do whatever they want in any industry?

Ring 6 · Jan 21, 2016

Haley said:
If Todd Haley, who only ever played golf in college, can coach professional football, so can a woman. Clearly actual college play is not a requirement for the role, particularly the low level role this person is taking on.

I don't understand why there is even a question about whether or not a person can sit in a room and watch film. She lacks a penis, not eyes.

Perhaps the boobs get in the way?

Bella*chick · Jan 21, 2016

AndyJohnson said:
Perhaps the boobs get in the way?

Its not a problem for BB, is it?

Tunescribe · Jan 21, 2016

Bella*chick said:
No, it was that way in the good ole USA too. Look up coach, I think it was Don Peters. Of course, he was banned from coaching for having sex with his gymnasts, but I digress.

I'm not saying anything one way or another, just that no one cared at all that men were coaching girls gymnastics. No one said anything about relating to them or having experience doing the specific moves or the culture of girls. And why would that be? Because they are men and all men are just allowed to do whatever they want in any industry?

Have you seen me defending that here? No. To the contrary, I've been advocating the opposite. Your example of Geno Auriemma is tell-tale in respect to women not having the opportunity early on to develop the requisite capabilities of coaching at that level. It's different now, for the better. Say you have a male and a female coach of equal expertise: which would you consider better suited to coach a women's team? If you think it doesn't matter, you'd be wrong (in my humble opinion, naturally).

fnordcircle · Jan 21, 2016

Big mistake. Girls have vaginas which are the source of cooties.

Tunescribe · Jan 21, 2016

fnordcircle said:
Big mistake. Girls have vaginas which are the source of cooties.

Widen your horizons. Get out of the trailer park.

fnordcircle · Jan 21, 2016

Tunescribe said:
Get out of the trailer park.

But I worked so hard to get here

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