OT: Bills hire female special teams coach

Joker said:

Yup...I agree 100%.Now name the woman alive today that can fill that prerequisite. I'll wait.

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Sorry I do not know all 3 billion women on the planet so I can not give you a name I merely believe that at least one of them could. I do not assume that just because someone has breasts and a vagina that means they can't teach. Now play with the men? That is a far different arguement

Just waiting for the fartruckus that ensues when this coach enters the locker room after a game or practice and...I'll let your imaginations take it from there. :O

She must have cute feet...

Tunescribe said:

Why on earth is it "very cool," and especially WHY is it "overdue"? I'm sorry -- and this undoubtedly will offend the PC crowd -- but a woman coaching men in a men's professional sport that women never have played and likely never will play seems odd and unnecessary. Contrary to what Hollywood tries to tell us, the sexes are not automatically interchangeable in every human endeavor. Even my wife, who is as progressive as it gets, sees the NFL's token female referee for the cynical PR/marketing stunt it actually is. But if Wrecks believes a female coach will help his failing cause and bring attention to the Bills, then hop aboard the clown car lady!

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Sign of the times.

A woman in an around an NFL locker room can only lead to problems.

jays52 said:

It's special teams QC. It's an entry level position where they essentially get locked in a closet and break down ungodly amounts of film. LaCanfora using terms like "cool" and "long overdue" to describe this is patronizing but unsurprising. Dude's built like an amoeba.

She is a person who has been hired to do a job. If she can contribute that is awesome and if not GTFO like anyone else hired for the job should be treated. You'd think that in 2016 the headline would read Kathryn Smith instead of a pronoun and, considering how low-level the position is, be burried like any other QC hiring story would be.

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People are still conditioned to think diversity matters. It's a problem that will take decades to fix, if it can be fixed at all.

pazrul72 said:

Assuming she can actually coach I have zero issue with this. How many former players coach? Vrabel is one of the few that comes to mind. Mike singletary was one of the best LB's to ever play and bombed hilariously as a head coach. Yeah Bellichick played center in college but that was at a tiny division III school and he was never any good. Still the greatest coach that ever was. Playing and coaching are two VERY different skill sets and the only current patriot I could see having the chips to make the jump is Brady. So the fact that a woman has never played means squat if she understands concepts and can teach them.

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There is much, much more to coaching than understanding concepts and being able to teach them. If you ever played sports you'd know this. Connecting intuitively on a relational level is a HUGE part of it and is facilitated by being of like gender. I wouldn't want my son coached football by a woman regardless of how well she understood "concepts" or how clearly she could impart them. It's a crude example, but I want whoever is coaching my kid to know what it feels like getting kicked in the balls. In coaching, the messenger is just as important as the message.

Here's what the new-age PC curriculum didn't teach you in middle school: Men and women are equal but different, with inherently different aptitudes and capabilities in many areas of human endeavor. But "equal" does not mean "interchangeable." So stop with the diversity is paramount and gender doesn't matter idealistic nonsense. If this isn't clear to you now, life will teach it to you down the road.

One day there will be a woman stronger and faster than a man and she is going to make some of you eat your words. Hopefully she will play for us.

Meh. If she does a great job by earning the player's respect by helping them succeed - and being sucessful so be it.

Time will tell if she does.

Angelpats said:

One day there will be a woman stronger and faster than a man and she is going to make some of you eat your words. Hopefully she will play for us.

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Kyliie Jenner is too old.

Joker said:

Yup...I agree 100%.Now name the woman alive today that can fill that prerequisite. I'll wait.

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That won't take long. Check out this 60-yard field goal by UCLA placekicker Ka'imi Fairbairn against Cal.
WATCH: UCLA kicker breaks school record, nails 60-yard field goal

Angelpats said:

One day there will be a woman stronger and faster than a man and she is going to make some of you eat your words. Hopefully she will play for us.

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Without genetic manipulation, it's probably not going to happen unless we get a genetic freak. Male/Female physical differences are usually accentuated at the elite levels, not minimized.

I think this is cool. Men coach women's teams in virtually every sport. There's no reason a woman couldn't coach men if she had the power to bench guys and cut them. It's about power, not gender.

Here's a question for you: Do you think a woman could manage the clock at the end of a game better than Andy Reid?

There were at least four women at our KC-Patriots party saying, "What the hell is KC doing?" as the clock ticked away on Sunday. We've got women on this board who would do a better job than Andy Reid did on Sunday. But don't tell the Chiefs that. I like it better when they suck.

If having a woman coach ups national interest in the small market Buffalo Bills, that's great.

Tunescribe said:

There is much, much more to coaching than understanding concepts and being able to teach them. If you ever played sports you'd know this. Connecting intuitively on a relational level is a HUGE part of it and is facilitated by being of like gender. I wouldn't want my son coached football by a woman regardless of how well she understood "concepts" or how clearly she could impart them. It's a crude example, but I want whoever is coaching my kid to know what it feels like getting kicked in the balls. In coaching, the messenger is just as important as the message.

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For the record: I don't care whether women coach in the NFL. I sure as hell don't think women and men are "interchangeable." But your argument reminds me that men have always been allowed to coach women's sports. And somehow, Geno Auriemma and Bela Karolyi managed to scrape by without being able to "connect intuitively on a relational level" to life as a woman.

Putting aside football for a moment, imagine a girl growing up in another intense contact sport like lacrosse. Let's say her dad was a coach, and she was raised not only playing but immersed in sport with a detailed coaching mentality. She played from childhood all the way through college, then became a coaching assistant, then small-college head coach, then division 1 head coach. Are you ready to say that Amanda Belichick couldn't possibly succeed at coaching men's lacrosse and should be barred from trying?

patchick said:

For the record: I don't care whether women coach in the NFL. I sure as hell don't think women and men are "interchangeable." But your argument reminds me that men have always been allowed to coach women's sports. And somehow, Geno Auriemma and Bela Karolyi managed to scrape by without being able to "connect intuitively on a relational level" to life as a woman.

Putting aside football for a moment, imagine a girl growing up in another intense contact sport like lacrosse. Let's say her dad was a coach, and she was raised not only playing but immersed in sport with a detailed coaching mentality. She played from childhood all the way through college, then became a coaching assistant, then small-college head coach, then division 1 head coach. Are you ready to say that Amanda Belichick couldn't possibly succeed at coaching men's lacrosse and should be barred from trying?

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Great post, but I have one nit pick. You forgot to drop the mic at then end.

Patchick, you are so right. I'd love to know how Bela Karolyi could possibly understand how it feels to do a double back in a layout position. Lol!!!!

My only issue is this a "token" to appeal to the base or to curry favor in the NFL, or has she ascended the coaching ladder by merit??.

I hope it is the latter and she breaks ground, but on the other hand I hope she and Rex fail miserably, not because she is a woman, but because she works for the Bills..

I could just imagine the post interview briefing.....

Rex: I'm not sure if she knows anything, b......b......b.......but d.........d.......d.......did you see those f*cking feet?

patchick said:

For the record: I don't care whether women coach in the NFL. I sure as hell don't think women and men are "interchangeable." But your argument reminds me that men have always been allowed to coach women's sports. And somehow, Geno Auriemma and Bela Karolyi managed to scrape by without being able to "connect intuitively on a relational level" to life as a woman.

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Don't get yer dander up. Here's a revelation that might surprise you: women likely are better at coaching women's sports than men because they inherently understand/relate better. Perhaps Bela Karolyi succeeded in spite of gender differences as a father figure to little girls. Geno Auriemma rose to prominence at a time when capable and accomplished female coaches at his level of competition were few and far between for multiple reasons; such no longer is true.

patchick said:

Putting aside football for a moment, imagine a girl growing up in another intense contact sport like lacrosse. Let's say her dad was a coach, and she was raised not only playing but immersed in sport with a detailed coaching mentality. She played from childhood all the way through college, then became a coaching assistant, then small-college head coach, then division 1 head coach. Are you ready to say that Amanda Belichick couldn't possibly succeed at coaching men's lacrosse and should be barred from trying?

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I think Amanda Belichick would make a fine women's lacrosse coach. Which is what she's doing.

It's not about "she got da skillz, she gets da job." Especially at the interscholastic level, coaching involves character building and personal development transcending knowledge of the game. THAT aspect of coaching is not gender interchangeable regardless of how capable one might seem on paper.

DarrylS said:

My only issue is this a "token" to appeal to the base or to curry favor in the NFL, or has she ascended the coaching ladder by merit??.

I hope it is the latter and she breaks ground, but on the other hand I hope she and Rex fail miserably, not because she is a woman, but because she works for the Bills..

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Bills hire NFL's first full-time female assistant

She worked for the Jests for 12 years, came in as a special events intern, worked her way into college scouting, then player personnel, then as an assistant to Rex. Reading the ESPN article, it sounds like she got her foot in the door accepting a position that was open, and has since worked her way into football operations, then the coaching side of things. If that isn't the right way to work your way up the ladder and break into a coaching staff, then I don't know what is.

Tunescribe said:

Especially at the scholastic level, coaching involves character building and personal development transcending knowledge of the game. THAT aspect of coaching is not gender interchangeable regardless of how capable one might seem on paper.

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Your issue with this is that Character Building and Personal development is not gender transferable? These are leadership skills that transcend sports, into all forms of leadership. I have an easier time buying that it will be tough for a female coach to relate to playing football at an elite level, than buying that they can't help to develop character and leadership in young men because of a gender barrier.

Do you honestly believe there aren't female teachers, managers, mentors, and even mothers that are influencing men in their teens 20's and 30's every single day?

If Todd Haley, who only ever played golf in college, can coach professional football, so can a woman. Clearly actual college play is not a requirement for the role, particularly the low level role this person is taking on.

I don't understand why there is even a question about whether or not a person can sit in a room and watch film. She lacks a penis, not eyes.