OT: Bills hire female special teams coach

sb1 · Jan 20, 2016

LaCanfora:
"Very cool and overdue - Bills hire 1st full-time female NFL coach, Announce Kathryn Smith as Quality Control-Special Teams coach"

Joker · Jan 20, 2016

WTF job description does that entail...getting matching shoes for each player before they go on the field?

wait...does she have a history as a masseuse?/ foot massages?

FourierSeries · Jan 20, 2016

Does she have nice feet?

TomPatriot · Jan 20, 2016

If Rex hired her, we know she needs to toe the line.

Jokes aside, no reason women can't coach in the NFL.

neuronet · Jan 20, 2016

I hate Rex, but admire him a lot. Very cool.

Deus Irae · Jan 20, 2016

Now she's got her foot in the door.

doesntmatter1 · Jan 20, 2016

Im all for equality, but I draw the line with Football. Sorry, I just see this as a slippery slope. Soon we will se women kickers and punters.

FWIW I have always suspected strong flexible women would be better kickers than men but I would like this to remain a mens league.

Joker · Jan 20, 2016

If Wrecks had any balls he'd name her offensive co-ordinator. Do that and his wife would serve him a smorgasbord of metatarsels the rest of the year...

Tunescribe · Jan 20, 2016

sb1 said:
LaCanfora: "Very cool and overdue - Bills hire 1st full-time female NFL coach, Announce Kathryn Smith as Quality Control-Special Teams coach"

Why on earth is it "very cool," and especially WHY is it "overdue"? I'm sorry -- and this undoubtedly will offend the PC crowd -- but a woman coaching men in a men's professional sport that women never have played and likely never will play seems odd and unnecessary. Contrary to what Hollywood tries to tell us, the sexes are not automatically interchangeable in every human endeavor. Even my wife, who is as progressive as it gets, sees the NFL's token female referee for the cynical PR/marketing stunt it actually is. But if Wrecks believes a female coach will help his failing cause and bring attention to the Bills, then hop aboard the clown car lady!

NashuaPats · Jan 20, 2016

doesntmatter1 said:
Im all for equality, but I draw the line with Football. Sorry, I just see this as a slippery slope. Soon we will se women kickers and punters.

FWIW I have always suspected strong flexible women would be better kickers than men but I would like this to remain a mens league.

Didn't a woman try out as a kicker for the NFL a few years ago?

Oh yeah, here's the video from her try out.

TheBostonStraggler · Jan 20, 2016

TomPatriot said:
If Rex hired her, we know she needs to toe the line.

Jokes aside, no reason women can't coach in the NFL.

That's a platitude and a very un-serious statement. As society and the sport of football currently exist there absolutely are obvious reasons. A serious statement(in the form of a question) is, do the reasons reasons make a good case for keeping football coaching a male only position.

nabwong · Jan 20, 2016

This is a quality control position. What does that mean?

Anyway who would object to having women tight ends?

FreeCourtroomBrady · Jan 20, 2016

Isn't any coach on the Bills considered special teams considering the Bills are.. you know.. special?

pazrul72 · Jan 21, 2016

Assuming she can actually coach I have zero issue with this. How many former players coach? Vrabel is one of the few that comes to mind. Mike singletary was one of the best LB's to ever play and bombed hilariously as a head coach. Yeah Bellichick played center in college but that was at a tiny division III school and he was never any good. Still the greatest coach that ever was. Playing and coaching are two VERY different skill sets and the only current patriot I could see having the chips to make the jump is Brady. So the fact that a woman has never played means squat if she understands concepts and can teach them.

jays52 · Jan 21, 2016

It's special teams QC. It's an entry level position where they essentially get locked in a closet and break down ungodly amounts of film. LaCanfora using terms like "cool" and "long overdue" to describe this is patronizing but unsurprising. Dude's built like an amoeba.

She is a person who has been hired to do a job. If she can contribute that is awesome and if not GTFO like anyone else hired for the job should be treated. You'd think that in 2016 the headline would read Kathryn Smith instead of a pronoun and, considering how low-level the position is, be burried like any other QC hiring story would be.

Joker · Jan 21, 2016

pazrul72 said:
Assuming she can actually coach I have zero issue with this. How many former players coach? Vrabel is one of the few that comes to mind. Mike singletary was one of the best LB's to ever play and bombed hilariously as a head coach. Yeah Bellichick played center in college but that was at a tiny division III school and he was never any good. Still the greatest coach that ever was. Playing and coaching are two VERY different skill sets and the only current patriot I could see having the chips to make the jump is Brady. So the fact that a woman has never played means squat if she understands concepts and can teach them.

OK,Mr. "We Are The World"...I wasn't going to reply to this ridiculous bunch of lies because I have no interest in arguing PC bullshyt but...let's take what YOU say and just pull an arbitrary NFL team out of thin air that no one even knows much about or cares about...NEVER MIND THE ONES WE DO THAT DESTROY YOUR PREMISE. Here's the staff of the Tenn Titans..

Head Coach/Tight Ends – Mike Mularkey-Played in the NFL
Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator – **** LeBeau-Played in the NFL

Offensive Coaches

Offensive Coordinator – Terry Robiskie-Played in the NFL
Quarterbacks – Jason Michael-Div 1 college QB
Running Backs – Sylvester Croom-Played in the NFL
Wide Receivers – Vacant
Assistant Wide Receivers – Jason Tucker-Played NFL and CFL
Assistant Tight Ends and Offensive Line – Arthur Smith-Division 1 college player
Offensive Line – Bob Bostad
Assistant Offensive Line – Mike Sullivan-ex-NFL ofdfensive lineman
Offensive Assistant – Luke Steckel-College LB at Princeton-son of Les Steckel, famous NFL coach

Defensive Coaches

Defensive Line – Vacant
Assistant Defensive Line – Nick Eason-Played in NFL
Linebackers – Lou Spanos-Div 1 college player
Defensive Backs − Louie Cioffi
Assistant Secondary – Steve Brown-NFL player
Defensive Quality Control – Cannon Matthews-

Special Teams Coaches

Special Teams Coordinator – Bobby April-Div 1 college
Assistant Special Teams – Steve Hoffman-NFL player

Next time...before you jump off the cliff without a parachute, try a bona fide source as a reference...like THIS one

Pro Football History.com

The NFL is overflowing with former players in the coaching ranks. Your post is ludicrous. Yes Mike Singletary was a bust. Tom Landry a bust? Bart Starr? **** Butkus?...aaahhh, why bother, you have your PC agenda to promote...go ahead, give a list of qualified women coaches you know about that can teach NFL linebackers, defensive backs and lineman "the proper techniques" from their wealth of experience..

pazrul72 · Jan 21, 2016

Joker said:
OK,Mr. "We Are The World"...I wasn't going to reply to this ridiculous bunch of lies because I have no interest in arguing PC bullshyt but...let's take what YOU say and just pull an arbitrary NFL team out of thin air that no one even knows much about or cares about...NEVER MIND THE ONES WE DO THAT DESTROY YOUR PREMISE. Here's the staff of the Tenn Titans..

Head Coach/Tight Ends – Mike Mularkey-Played in the NFL
Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator – **** LeBeau-Played in the NFL

Offensive Coaches

Offensive Coordinator – Terry Robiskie-Played in the NFL
Quarterbacks – Jason Michael-Div 1 college QB
Running Backs – Sylvester Croom-Played in the NFL
Wide Receivers – Vacant
Assistant Wide Receivers – Jason Tucker-Played NFL and CFL
Assistant Tight Ends and Offensive Line – Arthur Smith-Division 1 college player
Offensive Line – Bob Bostad
Assistant Offensive Line – Mike Sullivan-ex-NFL ofdfensive lineman
Offensive Assistant – Luke Steckel-College LB at Princeton-son of Les Steckel, famous NFL coach

Defensive Coaches

Defensive Line – Vacant
Assistant Defensive Line – Nick Eason-Played in NFL
Linebackers – Lou Spanos-Div 1 college player
Defensive Backs − Louie Cioffi
Assistant Secondary – Steve Brown-NFL player
Defensive Quality Control – Cannon Matthews-

Special Teams Coaches

Special Teams Coordinator – Bobby April-Div 1 college
Assistant Special Teams – Steve Hoffman-NFL player

Next time...before you jump off the cliff without a parachute, try a bona fide source as a reference...like THIS one

Pro Football History.com

The NFL is overflowing with former players in the coaching ranks. Your post is ludicrous. Yes Mike Singletary was a bust. Tom Landry a bust? Bart Starr? **** Butkus?...aaahhh, why bother, you have your PC agenda to promote...go ahead, give a list of qualified women coaches you know about that can teach NFL linebackers, defensive backs and lineman "the proper techniques" from their wealth of experience..

Normally I really like your posts joker in that crazy old uncle you love anyway sort of way. Ok so the titans have a lot of people who played not one of those names I recognized. Being a star in the NFL does not mean you will be great at coaching. They are different skill sets and not everyone is cut out to do it. Do I think Kathryn Smith is destined to be the next great HC? Course not she has a major uphill battle to fight. Do I think most women are capable of coaching in the NFL hell no due to that uphill battle. All I was saying is the few woman who can should not be denied the opportunity because of their genitalia. In my mind it's like saying can women be marines? Most? Probably not but I bet there are 1000 or so that could and if they want to I say have at it

Joker · Jan 21, 2016

That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about..I KNEW you'd straw man this. Woman CAN do whatever they want just like men. Women can be marines, jet fighter pilots, UFC knockout artists, boxers, golfers...the entire spectrum.

Do I think, or just about any man these days, think that Rhonda Rousey could teach millions of men how to defend themselves? Of course. I'd sign up for that.

Read this about the FIRST woman to sign on to coach in the NFL.She made it all the way to the end of this preseason.
Jen Welter on what it means to be the NFL's first female coach | The MMQB with Peter King

Nice story...so what happened? I'll tell you what...at the end of the day who do YOU want coaching YOUR linebackers how to rip Tom Brady's head off...Joey Porter or Jen Welter? Seriously, you actually THINK you could sell this to an NFL fanbase?

Like I said, it's a nice "Billie Jean King breaks the tennis sex barrier!" story but at the end of the day what owners want is WINS and fannies in the seats. Empirical evidence shows this takes MEN teaching MEN how to play the game of football on the highest level. Ask women who love the NFL game, a number that has grown exponentially, if they want Jen Welter teaching THEIR team's defenders how to properly hit and tackle Adrian Petersen in the open field...from her wealth of experience.

I'm happy and I won't deny it, that Rex Ryan has made this move. It's going to generate clicks and ramp up interest by the media in the Buffalo area. It will sure help keep him and his massive ego in the news, if nothing else. The bottom line is he better do a better job coaching or the towel girl may just take his job in the end.

pazrul72 · Jan 21, 2016

Joker said:
That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about..I KNEW you'd straw man this. Woman CAN do whatever they want just like men. Women can be marines, jet fighter pilots, UFC knockout artists, boxers, golfers...the entire spectrum.

Do I think, or just about any man these days, think that Rhonda Rousey could teach millions of men how to defend themselves? Of course. I'd sign up for that.

Read this about the FIRST woman to sign on to coach in the NFL.She made it all the way to the end of this preseason.
Jen Welter on what it means to be the NFL's first female coach | The MMQB with Peter King

Nice story...so what happened? I'll tell you what...at the end of the day who do YOU want coaching YOUR linebackers how to rip Tom Brady's head off...Joey Porter or Jen Welter? Seriously, you actually THINK you could sell this to an NFL fanbase?

Like I said, it's a nice "Billie Jean King breaks the tennis sex barrier!" story but at the end of the day what owners want is WINS and fannies in the seats. Empirical evidence shows this takes MEN teaching MEN how to play the game of football on the highest level. Ask women who love the NFL game, a number that has grown exponentially, if they want Jen Welter teaching THEIR team's defenders how to properly hit and tackle Adrian Petersen in the open field...from her wealth of experience.

I'm happy and I won't deny it, that Rex Ryan has made this move. It's going to generate clicks and ramp up interest by the media in the Buffalo area. It will sure help keep him and his massive ego in the news, if nothing else. The bottom line is he better do a better job coaching or the towel girl may just take his job in the end.

I want the person best qualified at teaching my linebacker to be in the right position with the best technique to get that RB on the ground by any means necessary. Man woman it alien I could give a crap. At the end of the day the only thing I care about is my team winning

Joker · Jan 21, 2016

pazrul72 said:
I want the person best qualified at teaching my linebacker to be in the right position with the best technique to get that RB on the ground by any means necessary. Man woman it alien I could give a crap. At the end of the day the only thing I care about is my team winning

Yup...I agree 100%.Now name the woman alive today that can fill that prerequisite. I'll wait.

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