Manning told Sander to be alert in case he fell down and got back up

sambam94 said:

not only turtled but feet slid forward...meaning a QB has given himself up. Of course he will say he slipped, but he's done this multiple times so track record is there.

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Multiple-time offender. Cheater.

sambam94 said:

it was a cheesy play and should have been called dead. Sets a horrible precedent. A QB slides down, play over..QB turtles to the ground, play should be over. Refs have to be more aware of what the guy is doing.

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I thought refs just had to aware of who was supposed to win the game. Geez, that job is harder than I thought!

Can you guys imagine how ballistic everyone would be going if Brady had 'broken the spirit of the rules' like this?

"THERE GOES SHADY BRADY AGAIN CHEATING TO AVOID HITS WITH THE REFS IN HIS BACK POCKET, HE'S NOT A REAL MAN LIKE PEYTON"

Good, now it won't be a problem when a Patriot drills him during his flop act.

BelichickFan said:

Just touch the f*cker down and be done with it. If this is what he's resorting to . . . LMFAO.

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They shouldn't have had to. Manning gave himself up. By rule, that should have been blown dead.

Sciz said:

I'm just worried that a defender is going to jump on him in that situation and get called for a personal foul because the ref rules that he gave himself up and therefore didn't need to be touched down.

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Of course, he could touch him down. I don't begrudge anyone to try something that might work.

This is Charlie Casserly delusional level stuff.

So the fact that Manning told Sanders to be aware of the situation means that this was a designed play. Did the Broncos gain a "competitive advantage" from this?

#integrity

sambam94 said:

he slid to avoid a hit, thus giving himself up. Play should have been dead at that point. Manning has done this multiple times in recent memory. It was obvious, not sure how the refs could miss it.

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The question is this: What would have happened if a player would have drilled Manning at that point? Clear 15 yard penalty, and likely a huge fine, right?

So how could the refs let Manning get away with obviously giving himself up, everyone stopping on the play because he's protected by the rules, and then let him get back up and complete a pass? And for that NOT to be reviewable?

I think the rule needs to be clarified. If a QB goes to the ground or his knee touches the ground in the backfield for any reason, the whistle should be blown and the play be over. (That's different from a "kneeldown," where the rule says that a kneeldown occurs if the QB "immediately goes to his knee" after the snap.)

I've watched that tape many times and, if Manning was faking it, he's got it down to an art form, as you could call it either way. In general, I am not against a team or player pushing the rules to the limit (remember the Ravens game last year ), but if he was intentionally faking it, then as a QB, he was abusing a rule that's designed to protect the QB.

That's a loophole that should be closed. Even if the QB in the shotgun just falls down catching the snap and there isn't a defender within five yards of him, the play should be dead.

I doubt it was by design. What I think happened is that he felt a little pressure and slid forward to avoid any possible hit. He then realized that no one was around him so he popped up and threw it. Play should have been dead as soon as he slid.

Cough! Cough! Cough! BULLS**T! Cough! Cough! Cough!

sambam94 said:

I doubt it was by design. What I think happened is that he felt a little pressure and slid forward to avoid any possible hit. He then realized that no one was around him so he popped up and threw it. Play should have been dead as soon as he slid.

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And he just happened to talk to Sanders about the possibility of a play like that? I'm not buying it.

I saw the play in question. Defender never touched him..ever.
Peyton just got back up after falling down and made his play but I saw nothing that shows he was down other then the fact that he fell down evading a rush...this isn't college so that does not count.(as far as I know)
Sorry guys.
Lets just stick with inserting clever lyrics in the Nationwide jingle.

Manning clearly gave himself up. You have to be blind not to see that. However, since Manning is now claiming what he's claiming, 31 teams should make sure to go up to the officiating crew before playing Manning in a game and say:

"When we drill Manning while he's on the ground, remember that he claims that getting up after "falling down" is in his playbook, so we'd better not draw a penalty."

BelichickFan said:

Just touch the f*cker down and be done with it. If this is what he's resorting to . . . LMFAO.

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sambam94 said:

the problem is that someone might not be close enough to touch him right away if he slides down after feeling a bit if pressure. Like I said, sets a bad precedent. What if a pitt defender cleaned his clocked as manning was just starting to get up yesterday? Would there be any doubt it would have been a personal foul? He slid down, play over...but then he gets to get back up again and throw it when he realizes no one is actually close enough to touch him after he ridiculously folds after feeling just a tiny bit of pressure?

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This is the discussion needed with the refs pregame

neuronet said:

Seriously?! That's freaking crazy.....

I see it as a heads-up play on his part, something if Brady did it we'd say was brilliant. Hats off to him for taking advantage of the situation when the chips were down.

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And the rest of the NFL would say Brady was cheating.

sambam94 said:

he slid to avoid a hit, thus giving himself up. Play should have been dead at that point. Manning has done this multiple times in recent memory. It was obvious, not sure how the refs could miss it.

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Yeah, if Brady did that crap, the howls would be heard all the way to the moon.

363839 said:

I saw the play in question. Defender never touched him..ever.
Peyton just got back up after falling down and made his play but I saw nothing that shows he was down other then the fact that he fell down evading a rush...this isn't college so that does not count.(as far as I know)
Sorry guys.
Lets just stick with inserting clever lyrics in the Nationwide jingle.

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No, he deliberately slid down. There was no 'falling' about it. What's more, he's done it before.