Will Chandler Jones Dominate Saturday?

Jones is got to step up this week. He needs to redeem himself and get back in our good graces.

Pats-Phan said:

Alex Smith can run a little bit but he does not have speed to turn that run into a big chunk of yardage. I disagree that this will be a keep the QB in the pocket game.

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patriot1136 said:

Jones is got to step up this week. He needs to redeem himself and get back in our good graces.

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He doesn't need to get back in my good graces. He's a good kid who made a stupid mistake which I can apply to myself and just about everyone I know.

Tony2046 said:

He doesn't need to get back in my good graces. He's a good kid who made a stupid mistake which I can apply to myself and just about everyone I know.

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Well said, Tony. He may however, need to get back into the good graces of Belichick and the Krafts, particularly if there's any hope of an extension.

**** this good graces, namby pamby new age B.S. ...Jones is a football player. There's a football game Saturday. His JOB is to show up ready to play.If he can't go then there's an issue but this goddamned Pats fan moral majority bull needs to stop.

patriot1136 said:

Jones needs to redeem himself and get back in our good graces.

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No, he just needs to take better care of himself. That includes growing up, learning from his mistakes and becoming more responsible (which some adults never achieve) and perhaps seeking therapy.

aluminum seats said:

I certainly hope Belichick doesn't do anything like that. The whole "you're punished for a series" thing is lame, and one of the few times BB doesn't seem to have the right approach. Like when he sat Welker after the foot references--it proved nothing, but seemed to take the wind out of the team's sails a bit.

Play him or don't, no half-measures.

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We lost so sitting Welker for a while took the wind out of the teams sails. If we had won the argument would have been how it galvanized Welker and the team to play better.

Unfortunately no one that actually has to make those decisions in the real world has the benefit of your simplistic 20/20 view that is completely biased by the eventual outcome.

luuked said:

We lost so sitting Welker for a while took the wind out of the teams sails. If we had won the argument would have been how it galvanized Welker and the team to play better.

Unfortunately no one that actually has to make those decisions in the real world has the benefit of your simplistic 20/20 view that is completely biased by the eventual outcome.

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Wrong. The moment I found out what was going on I didn't like it.

He might sit a symbolic series, but as BB has not "xeroxed" the game plan it is difficult to know how he plans on using him.. he might have a really great game in fulfilling what is expected the game plan, and not even show up in the box score..

Early on fans used to bytch about how Seymour played a crappy game and did not even record a tackle, only to have BB ascend to the podium in the week after telling the world what a great game he had..

aluminum seats said:

Yes he is.

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Not really. When he does run, it's almost alway on 3rd down and almost never outside the numbers. Alex can run, he just isn't a speed threat on the outside. Which would defeat the purpose of having Chandler play extra contain.

RxJock1120 said:

Not really. When he does run, it's almost alway on 3rd down and almost never outside the numbers. Alex can run, he just isn't a speed threat on the outside. Which would defeat the purpose of having Chandler play extra contain.

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I'll take your word on him almost always running on 3rd down. But I've seen him take off a bunch and seems to have the giddy-up to do it. And 500 yards rushing (on far fewer attempts than, say, Wilson), good for what, about 4th among QBs, suggests to me he's a running threat.

Of course, he's white, so maybe he just looks slow.

Joker said:

**** this good graces, namby pamby new age B.S. ...Jones is a football player. There's a football game Saturday. His JOB is to show up ready to play.If he can't go then there's an issue but this goddamned Pats fan moral majority bull needs to stop.

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agreed, but I would not mind for jones to seek a bit of redemption within himself along with a damn the torpedoes, I'm lucky to be alive mantra to get out there and have a 3 sack day with 2 balls batted and a fumble forced

Joey007 said:

One knock on Chandler in terms of his play: before that sack in the Super Bowl last year, I can't remember another playoff game where he even had a sack. Hasn't really dominated in playoff games at all.

His problem is he seems to peak in late September/October, then runs out of gas come late in the year.

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Don't hold it against him for "doing his job" for all we know, he is drawing doubles or asked to eat up some blockers freeing others to come in clean.

I would sincerely hope that Belichick learned from the mistake he made with Welker in 2010 and doesn't sit Jones at first or at all. The defense is much better when he's on the field. I would prefer they dealt whatever punishment they feel is necessary internally and choose not to try to shoot themselves in the foot during a playoff tilt. But, that being stated, yeah... I do think he could have a great game. He has something to prove now.

supafly said:

He's also gone 5/6 games without a sack, so if that leads you to believe that he's going to "dominate" on Sunday, you may be a bit of an optimist.

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He had two sacks against Tennessee including a strip sack. He did have a stretch before that of 4 or so games without a sack, but still, to say he's on some big sackless streak isn't quite accurate.

aluminum seats said:

Of course, he's white, so maybe he just looks slow.

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It's funny because it's true!!!

It wouldn't surprise to hear that Park Avenue has suspended Jones indefinitely.

So to answer the question posed by the OP: Dominate? He'll be lucky to even play tomorrow,
and if he does, he'll be ineffective like the rest of the Patsies, most especially the weak-ass offense.

RxJock1120 said:

Why would he be playing more contain than the norm? Alex Smith is not much of a rusher, and when he does scramble it's not usually outside the tackles.

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Alex Smith was 4th in QBs in rushing this season. Only Cam, Tyrod and Russel Wilson had more.
He had more rushing yards this season than Lewis, Bolden and Whitte combined. The only player with more rushing yards than Alex Smith on our team was Blunt.
He might not be Michael Vick in his prime but Alex Smiths running is definitely something you have to account for.

patfanken said:

I think BB will sit him for some time at the start of the game. It would be par for the course. Whether it will be a series or a quarter, I don't know.

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Borges, of all people, has good counterargument to that:

BB coached Lawrence Taylor.