Tom Curran: Today's NFL has no patience for 'Next Belichick'

Just last year prominent posters here wanted to fire Bill the GM even if it meant losing Bill the Coach.

Belichick has more patience than the fans and courts have patience for Goodell. Prediction, BB outlasts the ahole and new leadership hopefully saves the league.

Nice article, Tom!

But "cache" means "store" or "reserve". It's "cachet" that means "credit" or "prestige". (From the French for a seal. "Lettres de cachet" were sealed orders from the King.) [/pedantry]

Mike the Brit said:

Nice article, Tom!

But "cache" means "store" or "reserve". It's "cachet" that means "credit" or "prestige". (From the French for a seal. "Lettres de cachet" were sealed orders from the King.) [/pedantry]

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yes. And cache sounds like cash; cachet rhymes with sashay.

Ivan said:

Kraft both deserves a great deal of credit and a great deal, of blame. He brought us both Belichick and Goodell.

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I hate to disturb your fantasy but, Kraft never had the power to install anyone as commissioner, but if he did, it would have been this guy, not Goodell.

Fidelity's Reynolds Is Among NFL-Commissioner Candidates

Some owners are expected to support the outsiders. Reynolds, for instance, was proposed by the New England Patriots’ owner, Robert K. Kraft; he will presumably support him, at least in the early voting. But the process favors familiarity.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/07/sports/football/07nfl.html

turkeyneck said:

yes. And cache sounds like cash; cachet rhymes with sashay.

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Indeed. But he may be thinking of caché (= hidden).

Zeus said:

Yet he just said this week he didn't feel the team/culture was fully committed to his vision until 2003.

I just said this earlier this week in another thread - 2000 was his best coaching/personnel management job. He had to jettison a bunch of name players with big contracts - Curran listed them in his article. It took guts to pull that off because the press, the fans and especially the guys in the locker room were not going to cut him any slack.

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Yep.

Some of those names had some stories behind them and were not all discarded because of a cultural issue.

For example, we joked about how Max Lane sucked but in 2000 he was a starter but broke his leg near the knee and went on IR. He was also a Midshipman and we all know BBs affinity for those guys.

robertweathers said:

Yep.

Some of those names had some stories behind them and were not all discarded because of a cultural issue.

For example, we joked about how Max Lane sucked but in 2000 he was a starter but broke his leg near the knee and went on IR. He was also a Midshipman and we all know BBs affinity for those guys.

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Most were discarded because they were overpaid and/or washed up. Not the same as Chip Kelly's deals.

It has been proposed that Kelly was trying to coach rich pro players like they were college players. That's a problem.

You have no idea how hard it is to replace a GOAT coach. Believe me I know it first hand from my soccer team. Just let us appreciate the years we have left with the GOAT coach and Qb.

MUFC7 said:

You have no idea how hard it is to replace a GOAT coach. Believe me I know it first hand from my soccer team. Just let us appreciate the years we have left with the GOAT coach and Qb.

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I would look for applicants from the Middle East

oldrover said:

They don't want another BB... BB throws off their "parity" goal of 32 teams at 8-8.

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Fine by me - let the Patriots be the last legit "dynasty".

RayClay said:

I hate to disturb your fantasy but, Kraft never had the power to install anyone as commissioner, but if he did, it would have been this guy, not Goodell.

Fidelity's Reynolds Is Among NFL-Commissioner Candidates



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/07/sports/football/07nfl.html

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Kraft was the one who organized split owners to back Goodell. I'm not a hater by any means but that's the way it went down.

This sums it up, in a nutshell:

And what is leadership like in today's world? It's very, very different than it was 10, 15 years ago.

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Curran: Today's NFL has no patience for 'Next Belichick'

Leadership is leadership. It doesn't change. Leadership is always going to be the ability to get others to do as one wishes.

Lurie's worried about the trappings.

JJDChE said:

I disagree. This has been an issue for like 30 years. The coaching carousel is not new. There will always be a few owners with foresight and willingness to buck popular opinion. It's a trait of strong leaders.

Belichick won't be the last great coach, i guarantee that.

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Look around the league. Find the teams that will allow coaches to grow, even through the difficult time of rebuilds, for other than pecuniary reasons. That's where you're most likely to find great coaches. So...

NYG
Pit
N.E. (?)
G.B. (?)
Sea (?)

Done

Ivan said:

Kraft was the one who organized split owners to back Goodell. I'm not a hater by any means but that's the way it went down.

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Kraft organizes every political situation in every business he is in. That's part of him being a billionaire. By saying that, because he helped winnow the field so Goodell could be chosen on the 5th ballot, because Kraft couldn't get support for his candidate...means he brought us Goodell, is almost as absurd as saying I brought Bush or Obama as President if i voted or made a campaign contribution.

Just admit you're wrong. Kraft was on the search committee and supported a candidate from Boston.

He wasn't going to snub the winner he'd have to work with, that's a losing strategy and he's anything but a loser and largely because of his moves, neither is his team.

And it's not in St. Louis.

Deus Irae said:

Look around the league. Find the teams that will allow coaches to grow, even through the difficult time of rebuilds, for other than pecuniary reasons. That's where you're most likely to find great coaches. So...

NYG
Pit
N.E. (?)
G.B. (?)

Done

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I'm impressed with the jets coach and not impressed with their organization. Will they mess it up? I say about 50/50.

The only thing Kraft failed was to consider 31 other owners when it came to goodell

They put a market guy in there who was not really a football guy.....

I don't begrudge anyone.....we have been treated very well by the football gods

Has to be said that Belichick benefitted from a SB win in 2001. There was already talk in the media that he had to go, but he was "saved" by an unlikely but fateful underdog season. Very possible that if the Tuck Rule has gone the other way, Belichick might have lasted through 2002 before getting run out of town.

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It has been proposed that Kelly was trying to coach rich pro players like they were college players. That's a problem.

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If you do some reading on the background of Jeff Lurie, he is the classic example of a trust fund baby who has never worked an honest day in his life. The money came from his grandfather who founded General Cinemas. Lurie went off on his own to be a Hollywood producer and completely sucked at it. A self-proclaimed draftnick and football junkie looking for his purpose in life talked the family into investing in the NFL. He bid $150m for the Pats and obviously was shot down.

At least Bob dialed down the jock-sniffing act when BB showed up. Lurie is still at it. He totally undermined Chip who IMO treated those players like employees which might be part of the issue as well.

rookBoston said:

Has to be said that Belichick benefitted from a SB win in 2001. There was already talk in the media that he had to go, but he was "saved" by an unlikely but fateful underdog season. Very possible that if the Tuck Rule has gone the other way, Belichick might have lasted through 2002 before getting run out of town.

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Not sure about that. Going 11-5 and making the playoffs in Year 2 of his time was pretty freaking incredible. This fan base was in a frenzy over what that team was doing.

While 2002 was frustrating as hell, they lost the division on a tiebreaker at 9-7 and played their asses off that last game vs MIA.

Plus Gillette just opened.

Now if he had a disastrous 2003....