Who are the priority for signing long-term?

zipster9 · Dec 31, 2015

All are free-agents in 2017

Sebastian Vollmer RT 31 7 4 yr$16,750,000 $4,187,500 $8,250,000 2017
Jabaal Sheard DE 26 5 2 yr$11,000,000 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 2017
Brandon LaFell WR 29 6 3 yr$9,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2017
Marcus Cannon LT 27 5 2 yr$9,000,000 $4,500,000 - 2017
Chandler Jones DE 25 4 4 yr$8,172,552 $2,043,138 $7,421,215 2017
Dont'a Hightower OLB 25 4 4 yr$7,724,002 $1,931,001 $6,280,729 2017
Rob Ninkovich DE 31 10 2 yr$7,000,000 $3,500,000 $4,500,000 2017
Scott Chandler TE 30 8 2 yr$5,300,000 $2,650,000 $2,000,000 2017
Alan Branch DT 31 9 2 yr$4,300,000 $2,150,000 $700,000 2017
Matthew Slater WR 30 8 2 yr$4,000,000 $2,000,000 $3,000,000 2017
Jon Bostic ILB 24 3 4 yr$3,940,798 $985,200 $1,830,163 2017
Jamie Collins OLB 25 3 4 yr$3,761,000 $940,250 $2,096,227 2017
Aaron Dobson WR 24 3 4 yr$3,428,370 $857,093 $1,173,360 2017
Logan Ryan CB 24 3 4 yr$2,773,252 $693,313 $563,252 2017
Duron Harmon SS 24 3 4 yr$2,711,100 $677,775 $533,600 2017
Brandon Bolden RB 25 4 2 yr$2,320,000 $1,160,000 $300,000 2017
Chris Jones DT 25 3 4 yr$2,252,512 $563,128 $92,512 2017
Jonathan Freeny ILB 26 4 1 yr$1,750,000 $1,750,000 $500,000 2017
Malcolm Butler CB 25 2 3 yr$1,530,000 $510,000 - 2017
Eric Martin ILB 24 2 2 yr$1,260,000 $630,000 - 2017
Kelcy Quarles DT 23 1 2 yr$1,100,000 $550,000 - 2017
Michael Williams TE 25 2 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017
Cameron Fleming G 23 2 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017
Chris Harper WR 22 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017

dales804 · Dec 31, 2015

No. Let them all go.

fnordcircle · Dec 31, 2015

I'm sure he doesn't think about that stuff until like, the day before their contract ends.

mikey m · Dec 31, 2015

Bill has been thinking about these resignings since before he even signed these guys to begin with

borg · Dec 31, 2015

Great topic
Of NE's homegrown studs......Collins, Hightower, Jones, Butler......how do you think NE would rank these based on importance to the defense? My ranking:

1) Butler (RFA)....#1 CB's are rare and expensive
2) Collins....coverage skills elevate him above Hightower.....rare commodity.
3) Hightower......indispensable run stopper
4) Jones ....lowest value because BB has proven he can find gems on open market

Who gets paid first? For this, we need to determine which player values being a Patriot most....which should mean a bit of a home team discount. Get one to bite....more may follow. Just guessing, I say Hightower takes a home team discount, NE pays market value for Collins, Jones hits the market, and Butler....???....the RFA status is restrictive...but all it takes is one team that needs a #1 CB, wants to set NE back.... both

Kontradiction · Dec 31, 2015

fnordcircle said:
I'm sure he doesn't think about that stuff until like, the day before their contract ends.

He probably calls their agents and asks for an extension on the payment date.

RobertWeathers · Dec 31, 2015

mikey m said:
Bill has been thinking about these resignings since before he even signed these guys to begin with

Exactly. Depending on the player, there are levels of rigor that the team follows leading up to resigning players. Its all based on performance, market, salary, roster projections, etc.

RobertWeathers · Dec 31, 2015

KontradictioN said:
He probably calls their agents and asks for an extension on the payment date.

...then he provides them with the Pats' PayPal account so it doesn't happen again.

ViperGTS · Dec 31, 2015

robertweathers said:
Exactly. Depending on the player, there are levels of rigor that the team follows leading up to resigning players. Its all based on performance, market, salary, roster projections, etc.

It's also most likely who else is a free agent from other teams that year, who they are looking at in drafts etc. Its a huge puzzle and glad we have a master to do it.

ALP · Dec 31, 2015

from that list i really only see ~10 names that he would even be interesting in re-signing, and a few of those 10 names it will be really easy to resign

that being said, I'd expect the extensions to start coming this offseason, into next season, and then some wont happen until a little before contract expires, and some will prob happen after contract expires

borg · Dec 31, 2015

From the top half of list....the long goners....Lafell and Chandler.....I personally would eradicate Cannon....and lowball Ninkovitch (sorry old man)

ivanvamp · Dec 31, 2015

zipster9 said:
All are free-agents in 2017

Sebastian Vollmer RT 31 7 4 yr$16,750,000 $4,187,500 $8,250,000 2017
Jabaal Sheard DE 26 5 2 yr$11,000,000 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 2017
Brandon LaFell WR 29 6 3 yr$9,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2017
Marcus Cannon LT 27 5 2 yr$9,000,000 $4,500,000 - 2017
Chandler Jones DE 25 4 4 yr$8,172,552 $2,043,138 $7,421,215 2017
Dont'a Hightower OLB 25 4 4 yr$7,724,002 $1,931,001 $6,280,729 2017
Rob Ninkovich DE 31 10 2 yr$7,000,000 $3,500,000 $4,500,000 2017
Scott Chandler TE 30 8 2 yr$5,300,000 $2,650,000 $2,000,000 2017
Alan Branch DT 31 9 2 yr$4,300,000 $2,150,000 $700,000 2017
Matthew Slater WR 30 8 2 yr$4,000,000 $2,000,000 $3,000,000 2017
Jon Bostic ILB 24 3 4 yr$3,940,798 $985,200 $1,830,163 2017
Jamie Collins OLB 25 3 4 yr$3,761,000 $940,250 $2,096,227 2017
Aaron Dobson WR 24 3 4 yr$3,428,370 $857,093 $1,173,360 2017
Logan Ryan CB 24 3 4 yr$2,773,252 $693,313 $563,252 2017
Duron Harmon SS 24 3 4 yr$2,711,100 $677,775 $533,600 2017
Brandon Bolden RB 25 4 2 yr$2,320,000 $1,160,000 $300,000 2017
Chris Jones DT 25 3 4 yr$2,252,512 $563,128 $92,512 2017
Jonathan Freeny ILB 26 4 1 yr$1,750,000 $1,750,000 $500,000 2017
Malcolm Butler CB 25 2 3 yr$1,530,000 $510,000 - 2017
Eric Martin ILB 24 2 2 yr$1,260,000 $630,000 - 2017
Kelcy Quarles DT 23 1 2 yr$1,100,000 $550,000 - 2017
Michael Williams TE 25 2 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017
Cameron Fleming G 23 2 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017
Chris Harper WR 22 2 yr$960,000 $480,000 - 2017

You definitely re-sign: Butler, Hightower, Collins, Sheard
You try to re-sign, if you can swing it: Jones, Ryan, Harmon, Branch

You don't sweat the rest. I mean, sure, you'd like Slater and Bolden, but at what price?

meatface · Dec 31, 2015

ivanvamp said:
You definitely re-sign: Butler, Hightower, Collins, Sheard
You try to re-sign, if you can swing it: Jones, Ryan, Harmon, Branch

You don't sweat the rest. I mean, sure, you'd like Slater and Bolden, but at what price?

BB has consistently shown that he likes ST contributors much more than fans do

DarrylS · Dec 31, 2015

It has been said with great reverence that BB has a plan for the guy who takes care of the Field Turf.. sure the behind the scenes brain trust has a plan, back up plan and a back up plan to the back up plan in place.

RobertWeathers · Dec 31, 2015

ViperGTS said:
It's also most likely who else is a free agent from other teams that year, who they are looking at in drafts etc. Its a huge puzzle and glad we have a master to do it.

Absolutely. They start with a projection or working plan and bake in a plan B or plan C.

As others have said as it pertains to Malcolm, their plan A is ( I assume)to stick with him, project that he will continue to improve on a ProBowl/All-Pro trajectory and offer him an extension that is financially reasonable. If that operating plan goes astray (and it easily could), their plan B is to draft a player (cost) and backfill the role.

patsfaninpa · Dec 31, 2015

borg said:
Great topic
Of NE's homegrown studs......Collins, Hightower, Jones, Butler......how do you think NE would rank these based on importance to the defense? My ranking:

1) Butler (RFA)....#1 CB's are rare and expensive
2) Collins....coverage skills elevate him above Hightower.....rare commodity.
3) Hightower......indispensable run stopper
4) Jones ....lowest value because BB has proven he can find gems on open market

Who gets paid first? For this, we need to determine which player values being a Patriot most....which should mean a bit of a home team discount. Get one to bite....more may follow. Just guessing, I say Hightower takes a home team discount, NE pays market value for Collins, Jones hits the market, and Butler....???....the RFA status is restrictive...but all it takes is one team that needs a #1 CB, wants to set NE back.... both

I would add Logan Ryan to make it a top 5. If we let Chandler Jones walk, Sheard becomes
an important extension.

manxman2601 · Dec 31, 2015

He's not on the list because he's a FA this year but I'd add Akiem Hicks. The interior DL has been a developing strength this year. He's a nice mix of someone who can stop the run but can also get penetration.

PatriotsPimp136 · Dec 31, 2015

I wish they had fought to get their draft picks back. It sucks. They still have that money to sign a free agent but still.

Patsfanin Philly · Dec 31, 2015

I wonder how much Lewis's injury right after signing the extension weighs on the players in terms of giving them an incentive to sign earlier and take the guaranteed money. Resigning earlier might be lower than market value later on versus risking a major injury that could and would decrease their market value. Food for thought...

Jimke · Dec 31, 2015

The very first re-signing is not on your list, Nate Ebner.

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