Patriots the #1 seed if they win either game?

Ice_Ice_Brady · Dec 20, 2015

If I'm not mistaken, they hold the tiebreaker over Cincy no matter what...I've plugged various scenarios into the ESPN Playoff Machine and have yet to find one where Cincy gets the head-to-head tiebreaker. Am I wrong?

If that's the case going 1-1 assures them the top seed over Denver (Denver's best case at that point is still a worse record than Pats) and Cincy (their best outcome if we go 13-3 is a tie with us, which we win.). There can't be a three way tie since Denver/Cincy play each other next week.

BobDigital · Dec 20, 2015

I think that is correct. Be nice to win next week though so we can use week 17 any way we choose.

Patsrock · Dec 20, 2015

Yes at 13-3 Pats win common games tiebreaker.

borg · Dec 20, 2015

ESPN lies
Expect the ESPN Machine to lie as well

Patsrock · Dec 20, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
If I'm not mistaken, they hold the tiebreaker over Cincy no matter what...I've plugged various scenarios into the ESPN Playoff Machine and have yet to find one where Cincy gets the head-to-head tiebreaker. Am I wrong?

If that's the case going 1-1 assures them the top seed over Denver (Denver's best case at that point is still a worse record than Pats) and Cincy (their best outcome if we go 13-3 is a tie with us, which we win.). There can't be a three way tie since Denver/Cincy play each other next week.

Three way can happen at 12-4 and in that case Denver is #1 seed because they will have swept Cincy and Denver. Pats would be #2

BobDigital · Dec 20, 2015

Patsrock said:
Three way can happen at 12-4 and in that case Denver is #1 seed because they will have swept Cincy and Denver. Pats would be #2

But the Pats would need to lose 2 games for that to happen. This thread is talking about if they lose only 1. Good point anyway though.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Dec 20, 2015

Patsrock said:
Three way can happen at 12-4 and in that case Denver is #1 seed because they will have swept Cincy and Denver. Pats would be #2

Yes...though three way tie could not happen if Patriots win one more game.

RobertWeathers · Dec 20, 2015

borg said:
ESPN lies
Expect the ESPN Machine to lie as well

If the do playoff calculations like QBR Pats will miss the playoffs based on having cooties

A Defiant Goose · Dec 20, 2015

borg said:
ESPN lies
Expect the ESPN Machine to lie as well

underrated post

smg93 · Dec 20, 2015

So that means a guaranteed bye? Yes!

Gronkowski123 · Dec 20, 2015

would be nice to win next week, clinch the 1 seed..at the same time eliminate the jests from the playoff race at metlife!!

gonna be tough with all of the injured players. our line will get crushed by the jets d line

Brady'sButtBoy · Dec 20, 2015

A few things -
The Steelers are in no matter what as long as they win one more game. They can't win their division.
The Broncos could still be out entirely if the Bengals beat them next week.
The Pats losing to the Jets and beating the Dolphins instead would make it more likely the Broncos would be out.
The Steelers would get the creampuff wildcard game of all-time at Houston should the Bengals beat Denver.

YOUGOTMOSSED · Dec 20, 2015

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
If I'm not mistaken, they hold the tiebreaker over Cincy no matter what...I've plugged various scenarios into the ESPN Playoff Machine and have yet to find one where Cincy gets the head-to-head tiebreaker. Am I wrong?

If that's the case going 1-1 assures them the top seed over Denver (Denver's best case at that point is still a worse record than Pats) and Cincy (their best outcome if we go 13-3 is a tie with us, which we win.). There can't be a three way tie since Denver/Cincy play each other next week.

Even if we wind up with the 2nd seed, I can easily envision the Denver or Cinci losing at home to either KC or Pittsburgh.

That said, I hope we have the pleasure of knocking the c*cksucking motherf*cking Jets out of playoff contention next week.

voluntarysaftey · Dec 20, 2015

So if we only lose 1 game or 0 games, we have #1 seed.
If we lose both games, and Cincy loses to Denver (and both them win their other game), we have #2 seed
If we lose both games and Cincy beats Denver (and both them win their other game),, we have #2 seed

I would almost be more inclined to rest injured players -- gronk, amendola, hightower, chung next week instead of letting them play with lingering injuries -- best case is we luck out and win,
worst case is week 17 becomes a must win -- and we have our full lineup with Edelman back, we should win that one easy and that helps keep the team a bit fresh for the playoffs (by going two weeks instead of 3 without a real game)

BelichickFan · Dec 20, 2015

Yeah, would be great to win next week and then have a JimmyG game although Brady would likely get first quarter to play with JE11 a little.

Soul_Survivor88 · Dec 20, 2015

voluntarysaftey said:
So if we only lose 1 game or 0 games, we have #1 seed.
If we lose both games, and Cincy loses to Denver (and both them win their other game), we have #2 seed
If we lose both games and Cincy beats Denver (and both them win their other game),, we have #2 seed

I would almost be more inclined to rest injured players -- gronk, amendola, hightower, chung next week instead of letting them play with lingering injuries -- best case is we luck out and win,
worst case is week 17 becomes a must win -- and we have our full lineup with Edelman back, we should win that one easy and that helps keep the team a bit fresh for the playoffs (by going two weeks instead of 3 without a real game)

Why risk losing in Week 17, when you can wrap up the #1 seed a week earlier?

SLGDEV · Dec 20, 2015

Patsrock said:
Yes at 13-3 Pats win common games tiebreaker.

I don't think you are correct. There has to be a minimum of four games. What are those four games? There was Denver and whoever Cincy played from the AFC South. AIUI, the tiebreaker goes to to strength of victory which is pts scored minus points given up. Right now we lead that by 166 to 145. (Same record and same conference record).

Brady'sButtBoy · Dec 20, 2015

I believe you're right, if we tie with Cincy they get number one seed.

venecol · Dec 20, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Why risk losing in Week 17, when you can wrap up the #1 seed a week earlier?

I just don't see Pats losing to Miami, they are truly pathetic.

SLGDEV · Dec 20, 2015

Brady'sButtBoy said:
I believe you're right, if we tie with Cincy they get number one seed.

No, it goes to strength of victory where we are currently ahead of them by 21 points, 166 to 145.

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