Pats 3rd most injured team (after Giants, Ravens)

reamer said:

I do think that the incremental value of the replacement is important to consider. If Option 1 is 100%, option 2 is 90%, option 3 is 75%, and option 4 is 50%, then yes, the dropoff from 3 to 4 is enormous compared with 1 to 2. That's why Brady has been hit on a higher percentage of passes in the last few games than he has in any comparable stretch of his career, if you can believe the network's infographics.

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Well, sure, if you make up arbitrary values to prove your point then it all makes sense.


What if option 1 is 100%, option 2 is 78%, option 3 is 74% and option 4 is 68%?

Better question...who is going to waste their time putting together a database with the values of scrubs?

to be 11-2 in those conditions is SIMPLY AWESOME

what a GREAT organisation we have...

Players placed on IR this year (most recent first) - obviously this doesn't even count the other injuries

RB LeGarrette Blount
DL Dominque Easley
DE Trey Flowers
WR Aaron Dobson
RB Dion Lewis
OL Ryan Wendell
T Nate Solder
OL Bryan Stork (Returned)
TE Jake Bequette (released?)
DB Darryl Roberts
FB James Develin
WR Brian Tyms
WR Brandon Gibson
RB Tyler Gaffney

Add on significant injuries to: Hightower, Collins, Wendell, Gronk, Edelman, Lafell, D-Mac, Cannon - probably missing a few more.

Mike the Brit said:

There are some obsessive people out there!

But you don't have to be a Ph.D. statistician to see what an outlier the Patriots are. (On my screen they are, literally, off the chart!)

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Agree, but what the hell is NWE?

I think games lost is probably the one objective measure on which everyone can agree, but if you do the chart by Impact to Team AV Value (i.e., by the size of the circles and an admittedly subjective measure), other teams would be in the picture as well (PIT, NOR, SFO, DEN, DAL).

Nikolai said:

'04, when we had Troy Brown as a CB. What a great team that was. If we win it all this year, we may have to think about putting this team in that kind of rarified air.

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That was the most balanced and multifaceted team the Patriots have ever had, in spite of the injuries. They could win in a defensive standoff one week, run the ball up the other team's throat the next week, and dominate a shootout the week after that.

notex said:

Players placed on IR this year (most recent first) - obviously this doesn't even count the other injuries

RB LeGarrette Blount
DL Dominque Easley
DE Trey Flowers
WR Aaron Dobson
RB Dion Lewis
OL Ryan Wendell
T Nate Solder
OL Bryan Stork (Returned)
TE Jake Bequette (released?)
DB Darryl Roberts
FB James Develin
WR Brian Tyms
WR Brandon Gibson
RB Tyler Gaffney

Add on significant injuries to: Hightower, Collins, Wendell, Gronk, Edelman, Lafell, D-Mac, Cannon - probably missing a few more.

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one of the more important players you are missing was Terrell Brown who was are starting #2 CB when he went down. You also missed Chris Jones who was a key rotational DT in 2014 before he got hurt.

They have lost 2 starters from their OL due to injury and lost another for the first half of the season, and a 4th to retirement.....PLUS have had EVERY single skilled player miss at least 2 games due to injury, yet STILL maintain one of the top offenses in the league.

So don't tell me that the Packer offense has gone south just because Jordy Nelson got hurt, or Carolina's Cam Newton is better than Brady, when his team has been one of the healthiest in the league, just because he lost one WR who had a good rookie year.

SlowGettingUp said:

Great site and graphic here:

NFL Week 14 Games Missed Due to Injury December 16, 2015 - Man Games Lost

(Assume this is before Easley/Blount)

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Do we get a trophy?