Dolphins organization looking like hypocrites now with a discontented QB

The Dolphins were literally trying so hard to get Trent Green for a 6th or 7th pick but it was dragged on forever until Miami finally gave in for a higher draft pick - At the time Trent was discontent and wanted out of KC to Miami but KC resisted and Miami was all in an uproar because KC was so tight with the release and eventual trade of Trent.

Now Miami has a complete 360 situation,They have Duante Culpepper who feels he can still be a starter on some team but is held up by Miami's refusal to just simply cut him like they should and won't even let him be a part of the team in camp.

Miami has virtually no chance to get anything for Culpepper but maybe a lower 6th or 7th round pick because of the uncertainty of Culpepper's leg injury from last year.

Isn't this almost hypocritic of the Dolphins FO?

They should simply do what they wanted KC to do and that is get rid of a discontent quarterback who has NO chance of starting unless for injury - At least Trent had some value for a 5th round pick - Duante has virtually none,at least until he plays this year and shows some team he can still play if he is actually physically able to do so.

Miami continues to show what a screwed up FO they have and it does not matter who the coach is - It all started to unravel with taking Culpepper over Brees and it continues to spiral downward.

Huyzenga is a crap owner and that team will never go anywhere until a decent owner takes over - Wayne needs to sell the Phins and get out of sports altogether and stick with the Blockbuster franchise he made successfully popular.

One less team to worry about in the AFC east for at least a few years.

I am betting Aqua4ever04 or Feelthepain left the 1 star rating - LOL

I thought the exact same thing. You would think they would be embarrassed about what they are doing. I wonder who what QB they will trade for next year. They do it every year, it seems.

PATRIOT64 said:

The Dolphins were literally trying so hard to get Trent Green for a 6th or 7th pick but it was dragged on forever until Miami finally gave in for a higher draft pick - At the time Trent was discontent and wanted out of KC to Miami but KC resisted and Miami was all in an uproar because KC was so tight with the release and eventual trade of Trent.

Now Miami has a complete 360 situation,They have Duante Culpepper who feels he can still be a starter on some team but is held up by Miami's refusal to just simply cut him like they should and won't even let him be a part of the team in camp.

Miami has virtually no chance to get anything for Culpepper but maybe a lower 6th or 7th round pick because of the uncertainty of Culpepper's leg injury from last year.

Isn't this almost hypocritic of the Dolphins FO?

They should simply do what they wanted KC to do and that is get rid of a discontent quarterback who has NO chance of starting unless for injury - At least Trent had some value for a 5th round pick - Duante has virtually none,at least until he plays this year and shows some team he can still play if he is actually physically able to do so.

Miami continues to show what a screwed up FO they have and it does not matter who the coach is - It all started to unravel with taking Culpepper over Brees and it continues to spiral downward.

Huyzenga is a crap owner and that team will never go anywhere until a decent owner takes over - Wayne needs to sell the Phins and get out of sports altogether and stick with the Blockbuster franchise he made successfully popular.

One less team to worry about in the AFC east for at least a few years.

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eh, if they let him go they get nothing. if they do this they might be able to get something out of it.

of course that assumes culpepper has any value, which i don't really see as the case.

stuff like this gets quickly forgotten. does anyone still care about what tennessee did to ncnair (who was their franchise qb and even won a freaking mvp with the team) last year?

in the meantime, it's fun to point and laugh at miami looking like a joke.

No rating, but I don't see why they wouldn't try to get something out of him. If these interested teams really want him that bad, you'd think they'd at least fork over a 6th or 7th. Besides, recent rumblings have said the Jaguars are very interested in Culpepper's services.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

JAGS HOT FOR 'PEPPER

A league source tells us that, as widely rumored, the Jacksonville Jaguars have a strong interest in quarterback Daunte Culpepper.

Per the source, assistant head coach Mike "Meathead" Tice is pushing Culpepper hard. One guy that Tice doesn't need to persuade is head coach Jack Del Rio, who isn't fond of current starter Byron Leftwich (notwithstanding comments from Del Rio suggesting a contrary sentiment).

The problem is that V.P. of player personnel Shack Harris is torn. He likes both Culpepper and Leftwich.

Still, Harris needs to be thinking about the future. Leftwich is under contract through 2007, as is Quinn Gray. David Garrard, who likely would be the odd man out if Culpepper is acquired, is signed through 2008.

The other wild card here is Del Rio's job security. Does adding Culpepper give Del Rio another year if the team tanks in 2007? Does the presence of Culpepper give Tice a shot at being the next coach of the team if Del Rio is fired?

The bottom line here is that, if Culpepper is healthy, he's better than Leftwich, Garrard, or Gray. But no one knows how healthy Culpepper really is.

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I agree with most of this post, except about Huyzenga being a crap owner. He is an almost ideal owner. Huyzenga will do anything, pay anything to bring a winner to Phin Fans; he is neither intrusive like Snyder or Jones, nor a profiteer like Bidwell or Brown. His failure is not in his heart, but in his head, a curious inability to hire effective executive personnel for a man of proven business acumen. I think it speaks to the fact that the NFL is a much more complex endeavor than many thrill-seeking billionaires imagine. In that respect the NFL is similar to the "Sport of Kings", which has devoured many a fool's fortune. Contrast Huyzenga with Kraft: the latter's great skill seems to be an insight keen enough to identify elite executive talent, and the guts to stick with his convictions. Kraft was able to pick Carroll, the best college coach in the country, and BB, the best pro coach, back to back. With that track record, I have confidence that the organization will remain strong should BB decide to take a much deserved break from the championship grind, as long as Robert is making the key decisions. I believe Jonathan Kraft is a remarkable, innovative businessman, but my gut tells me that his insight into human nature, so crucial in hiring a coach, may not match the unrivalled intuition of his father.

PonyExpress said:

I agree with most of this post, except about Huyzenga being a crap owner. He is an almost ideal owner. Huyzenga will do anything, pay anything to bring a winner to Phin Fans; he is neither intrusive like Snyder or Jones, nor a profiteer like Bidwell or Brown. His failure is not in his heart, but in his head, a curious inability to hire effective executive personnel for a man of proven business acumen. I think it speaks to the fact that the NFL is a much more complex endeavor than many thrill-seeking billionaires imagine. In that respect the NFL is similar to the "Sport of Kings", which has devoured many a fool's fortune. Contrast Huyzenga with Kraft: the latter's great skill seems to be an insight keen enough to identify elite executive talent, and the guts to stick with his convictions. Kraft was able to pick Carroll, the best college coach in the country, and BB, the best pro coach, back to back. With that track record, I have confidence that the organization will remain strong should BB decide to take a much deserved break from the championship grind, as long as Robert is making the key decisions. I believe Jonathan Kraft is a remarkable, innovative businessman, but my gut tells me that his insight into human nature, so crucial in hiring a coach, may not match the unrivalled intuition of his father.

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I have no doubts that if Belichick decides to step down next year or in 2 years ,If Bill Cowher,Romeo Crennel or Charlie Weis is willing and available they will be hired to take over the reins.

Coaches on the short list: the current OC for the NYJets, Schottenheimer's kid, who seems to have inherited all the good and none of the bad; Cowher; Rob Ryan, who somehow developed a sense of pride in the young Oakland D, despite the awful environment surrounding him; John Fox, should he be forced out in Carolina; Del Rio, should he be fired in Jacksonville. Not a great mind, but he has a knack for getting maximum effort from his D. Backed up by a solid personnel man and clever OC, he could excel; Mike Singletary, 49ers. a very intriguing candidate. Others: Gruden (too weird?), Ron Rivera (gameplanning very questionable vs. Carolina in 2005 playoffs, almost a career killer IMO); sleeper candidate, Bob Bratkowski, OC of the Bengals. A football lifer who has succeeded everywhere, college and pro.

Miami Should have just stuck with Duante and gone from there. Trent Green was absoulutley horendous when he played us in the playoffs and started going downhill ever since the concusion. The Dolphins seem to be going nowhere fast.

Aqua4Ever04 said:

No rating, but I don't see why they wouldn't try to get something out of him. If these interested teams really want him that bad, you'd think they'd at least fork over a 6th or 7th. Besides, recent rumblings have said the Jaguars are very interested in Culpepper's services.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

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No reason at all, if they hadn't just made a fuss about the Chiefs not releasing Green, and their not wanting to give a decent draft pick for him.

The thread is about being hypocritical. Not a big deal, especially since Green will be about the 17th bad choice in the search for Marino's replacement. The only decent QB you had post-Marino is Damon Huard (5-1 as a Fin).

So far, though, no one seems to want Culpepper very bad, which is amazing as I read in this forum that Culpepper is better than Tom Brady.

spacecrime said:

So far, though, no one seems to want Culpepper very bad, which is amazing as I read in this forum that Culpepper is better than Tom Brady.

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That idiotic claim was posted by a degenerate welcher of no character or football knowhow whatsoever.

It is hypocritical of the Dolphin organization and their fans.

PonyExpress said:

I agree with most of this post, except about Huyzenga being a crap owner. He is an almost ideal owner. Huyzenga will do anything, pay anything to bring a winner to Phin Fans; he is neither intrusive like Snyder or Jones, nor a profiteer like Bidwell or Brown. His failure is not in his heart, but in his head, a curious inability to hire effective executive personnel for a man of proven business acumen. I think it speaks to the fact that the NFL is a much more complex endeavor than many thrill-seeking billionaires imagine. In that respect the NFL is similar to the "Sport of Kings", which has devoured many a fool's fortune. Contrast Huyzenga with Kraft: the latter's great skill seems to be an insight keen enough to identify elite executive talent, and the guts to stick with his convictions. Kraft was able to pick Carroll, the best college coach in the country, and BB, the best pro coach, back to back. With that track record, I have confidence that the organization will remain strong should BB decide to take a much deserved break from the championship grind, as long as Robert is making the key decisions. I believe Jonathan Kraft is a remarkable, innovative businessman, but my gut tells me that his insight into human nature, so crucial in hiring a coach, may not match the unrivalled intuition of his father.

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that's right on the money, IMO. Makes us realize how fortunate we are in having the Krafts and how lucky we are in having things go our way over the last few years.

The comparison with the McNair situation isn't exactly the same, in that although Mia is treating Culpepper like McNair was treated by Tenn., Balt had to have McNair. Their draft was conducted assuming they would get him. It was just a matter of price. Culpepper has issued a statement to interested teams that they "sit tight" as he will not agree to any trade, forcing Mia. to eventually release him.

Cameron has really positioned himself in the media crosshairs in short order since arriving in Miami. They've even begun to forget how much they had grown to hate Saban. From the Miami Herald:

"The Dolphins' handling of Daunte Culpepper a year ago was bad enough -- ill-fated coach Nick Saban blindly wishing and allowing his mending quarterback into action before he was physically ready.

The Dolphins' handling of Culpepper under new coach Cam Cameron has been worse. Much. Bungled every which way.

We'd have thought it impossible for Saban to look good by comparison under any circumstance, but he does in this instance if only from the magnitude of wrong in the way Culpepper has been treated by the new administration.

It has been senseless from start to acrimonious end.

It has been grossly unfair to Culpepper.

It has levied a public relations mess upon the franchise.

It has worked on team chemistry like battery acid on flesh.

It has defied logic in terms of trying to make this team better...

Be assured that veterans on this team, locker room leaders, believe Culpepper deserves a chance. If only they would be brave enough to speak publicly as they have in private. If only the team's NFLPA representative, Jay Feely, had the gumption to say this situation smells -- that a player who toughs through some 20 months of rehabilitation, any player who does, deserves better than Culpepper has gotten.

The quarterback's frustration here is justified. You can understand his wanting his immediate release in lieu of a fair shot. You can even understand his trying to force that by threatening to make a trade all but impossible by refusing to renegotiate his contract.

After the way the Dolphins have treated Culpepper?

Any form of hardball coming back at the club -- the player's public noise, his threat to stop a trade, the grievance filed Tuesday, all of it -- is richly deserved."



http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/137505.html

Watch Culpepper now move onto another team and take them to the promised land. Seems to happen to all ex-Dolphin players.

PATRIOT64 said:

Now Miami has a complete 360 situation,

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Don't you mean a 180?

KontradictioN said:

Watch Culpepper now move onto another team and take them to the promised land. Seems to happen to all ex-Dolphin players.

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Hopefully in that case he lands in Jacksonville where the promised land lies atop the AFCS... Welker got traded first so he has former dolphins dibs on the trip to the real promised land.