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Loss of Jody Nelson exposes Aaron Rogers:


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Rodgers had SOOO many opportunities to win both the Detroit and CHI games it's not even funny. Especially last night. It looked like GB was picking up momentum and Cutler just kept giving the ball back to them and Rodgers couldn't do jack. I understand if you have just one or two drives, but he literally had the entire 4th quarter and at least 4 opportunities... and couldn't get it done. 13 points. Against the Cutler bears... Hell, Rodgers even had a running game. 177 yards on the ground. Brady would have his team up 30+ with a running game like that. How the f8ck do you only manage 13 points against the Bears with 177 rushing yards. It doesn't even make sense.

Just for perspective, Tom Brady is 51-1 when the Pats rush for 150 yards or more, the sole loss coming in '04 at the Dolphins (166 yards), where the team put up 28 points.
I doubt you will see any criticism of Rodgers, he is the new golden boy of the nfl and they just keep finding excuses for him.
 
I doubt you will see any criticism of Rodgers, he is the new golden boy of the nfl and they just keep finding excuses for him.

Brady has been doin this for years and has been winning and don't look any further than this week with injuries to Lewis, Edelman, Dola, Dobson Etc Etc Etc that Pats STILL can go into Denver and pull out a Win.
 
FYI, if you discount last year Brady is under .500 in the postseason since 2009, too. Stop cherrypicking stats.

Aggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh! My head hurts. Were you trying to create a new definition for irony or something?

Rodgers is a good QB. The ball-washing of that dude that's been going on for the past two years such that even some Patriot fans are saying that he's the best QB in the game currently is embarrassing. To my mind, greatness is particularly showed when the chips are down. And he's done squat comparatively to the GOAT. Who is STILL and is CURRENTLY the BEST QB IN THE NFL.
 
Aggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh! My head hurts. Were you trying to create a new definition for irony or something?

No, I was responding to the poster who said Rodgers is under 0.500 in the playoffs if you discount his Super Bowl run. Apparently, he didn't realize his insight also applies to Brady, who has also struggled in the playoffs since 2009, if you discount his Super Bowl run.

I hope that very clear explanation didn't hurt your head.
 
He may have lost Nelson, but Cobb, Jones, and Adams are no slouches by any stretch (certainly not the first two). A lot of dropsies and they seem to have lost the ability to create separation. I remember in prior years, I always attributed Rodgers' greatness to his receivers being able to open up in space. Always wish Brady had receivers who could open wide like that. This year though, something happened, and these guys just can't create separation for the life of theirs. Not sure what happened there. It's like GB is playing against shut down corners week in and week out, but we all know that's not the case.

As a site note, seeing GB on a decline makes me feel better, knowing their loss in Denver a few weeks ago was not Denver's great performance, but rather GB 5hitting the bed.
 
He may have lost Nelson, but Cobb, Jones, and Adams are no slouches by any stretch (certainly not the first two). A lot of dropsies and they seem to have lost the ability to create separation. I remember in prior years, I always attributed Rodgers' greatness to his receivers being able to open up in space. Always wish Brady had receivers who could open wide like that. This year though, something happened, and these guys just can't create separation for the life of theirs. Not sure what happened there. It's like GB is playing against shut down corners week in and week out, but we all know that's not the case.

As a site note, seeing GB on a decline makes me feel better, knowing their loss in Denver a few weeks ago was not Denver's great performance, but rather GB 5hitting the bed.

Jones was available because he'd been cut by the Raiders. Jones, at least Jones as a legitimate deep threat, is a product of Rodgers/G.B.. Adams has been hot garbage.
 
Adams has been hot garbage.

As I have had Adams on my fantasy team I paid a bit of attention to him (to me, this is the best thing about FF, it makes you pay attention to other teams and players you normally wouldn't). In my opinion, you've just made a grave insult to hot garbage.
 
I can see people knocking Rodgers play right now but the level of animosity towards him is really surprising and a great deal of it is every bit as ignorant as the garbage dumped on Brady in this forum early last fall. Imo it makes this forum look as idiotic as the jets forums are.
 
Untrue. When the Pats lose, Brady lays ALL the blame on himself. When Aaron Fraudgers chokes, he lumps in the playcalling and the O-line and the wide-outs. He's nothing but a self-serving prima donna who has not earned the right to be mentioned in the same breath as the GOAT.
 
I can see people knocking Rodgers play right now but the level of animosity towards him is really surprising and a great deal of it is every bit as ignorant as the garbage dumped on Brady in this forum early last fall. Imo it makes this forum look as idiotic as the jets forums are.

Gonna have to agree with this. I get it. We all think our quarterback is better than their quarterback. But we don't even play Green Bay at all this season, so who really cares what Rodgers is doing. And if we get our asses kicked tomorrow, I wouldn't be pissed at all if I saw a "Loss of Edelman & Amendola exposes Tom Brady" thread on their forum.
 
I'm sick of hearing how much better Rodgers is than Brady as well when the casual person looking strictly at numbers decides to make the comparison. I don't recall the Patriots going through a 1-4 stretch at any point in the last 15 years, and Brady's ability to keep this team competitive during the worst of circumstances is something that continually gets lost. I do feel a lot of that has to do with coaching and keeping guys from getting swallowed up by adversity, although the other half of that is done by veteran players who have been here a while who have raised the game of the newer players who have come in and Brady is part of that.

But I think Rodgers is overrated when it comes to being considered as the best among the "elite QBs", which, if you really think about it, the league isn't exactly full of players who fall into that category right now, especially at QB. I mean, think about it and go down the line: Manning has fallen off, Rivers is done, Wilson is good but not great, Romo is hurt but he's been inconsistent, Brees is starting to falter, Dalton is showing his true colors in Cincinnati, Flacco was awful before he got hurt. Newton is athletic and actually playing well, but Carolina's had a relatively easy schedule this year considering how bad the majority of their opponents have been this year and he's yet to put together a string of seasons that would put him into the "elite" category. But I won't fault the Panthers for what they've accomplished because you can only play who you play and it's not their fault that the group of teams they've faced is among the teams having a not-so-great year.

That essentially leaves Brady and Rodgers as the only two left still playing who have played consistently well, but Brady's done it for much longer and is still doing it, and as the stats show, in tough situations the guy rises to the occasion. So it's not a knock on Rodgers, but the experts calling him "the best player in the NFL" is just obnoxious. Until Brady starts consistently making bad decisions and not helping this team win football games, it's hard to put him below any player at this point.
 
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I'm sick of hearing how much better Rodgers is than Brady as well when the casual person looking strictly at numbers decides to make the comparison. I don't recall the Patriots going through a 1-4 stretch at any point in the last 15 years, and Brady's ability to keep this team competitive during the worst of circumstances is something that continually gets lost. I do feel a lot of that has to do with coaching and keeping guys from getting swallowed up by adversity, although the other half of that is done by veteran players who have been here a while who have raised the game of the newer players who have come in and Brady is part of that.

But I think Rodgers is overrated when it comes to being considered among the elite QBs, although if you really think about it, the league isn't exactly full of players who fall into that category right now, especially at QB. I mean, think about it and go down the line: Manning has falling off, Rivers is done, Wilson is good but not great, Romo is hurt but he's been inconsistent, Brees is starting to falter, Dalton is showing his true colors in Cincinnati, Flacco was awful before he got hurt. Newton is athletic and actually playing well, but Carolina's had a relatively easy schedule this year considering how bad the majority of their opponents have been this year and he's yet to put together a string of seasons that would put him into the "elite" category. But I won't fault the Panthers for what they've accomplished because you can only play who you play and it's not their fault that the group of teams they've faced is among the teams having a not-so-great year.

That essentially leaves Brady and Rodgers as the only two left still playing who have played consistently well, but Brady's done it for much longer and is still doing it, and as the stats show, in tough situations the guy rises to the occasion. So it's not a knock on Rodgers, but the experts calling him "the best player in the NFL" is just obnoxious. Until Brady starts consistently making bad decisions and not helping this team win football games, it's hard to put him below any player at this point.

For some reason many people in and around the NFL don't want to give Brady credit. I don't know if it's an NFC thing, the NYJFL or Manning clan influence, that Brady was such a late pick or that he has played under Belichick his whole career. Whatever it is though, he simply doesn't get his due. I've been watching NFL QBs since the days of Johnny U, and this kid is the best I've ever seen. The only thing he doesn't do well is throw long passes accurately at times. The rest of the NFL should be thankful for that.
 
I can see people knocking Rodgers play right now but the level of animosity towards him is really surprising and a great deal of it is every bit as ignorant as the garbage dumped on Brady in this forum early last fall. Imo it makes this forum look as idiotic as the jets forums are.

That's an exaggeration on both ends. I don't remember the Brady criticism being that bad. If anything many posters here were jumping on those few critics. And even on it's worst day, this forum could never look as idiotic as a Jests forum.
 
I can see people knocking Rodgers play right now but the level of animosity towards him is really surprising and a great deal of it is every bit as ignorant as the garbage dumped on Brady in this forum early last fall. Imo it makes this forum look as idiotic as the jets forums are.
I agree..I don't get the hate. I look at it as a maturity issue. Some always feel the need to bash someone who in some way threatens a player on their favorite team. Heaven forbid both Brady and Rodgers can be seen as great QBs.
 
Cobbs target/catch ratio since Oct has also been crappy...50% and the prod has been 3WR level
It's more of a "Loss of Nelson lessens Rodgers numbers, as expected, but Davante Adams' suckage is killing the Packers" thing:

Aaron Rodgers has a Davante Adams problem
This season:
Adams has 64 targets and 32 catches for 50% completion
Cobbs has 94 targets for 53 catches for 56% completion (In the last 6 games, Cobbs has been 48%)
Adams has sucked but theres plenty of suckage for Cobbs (and Rodgers) too.

What's really annoying about all these articles out there like this one: Aaron Rodgers has a Davante Adams problem is the media shoulders all the blame on Adams.
 
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That's an exaggeration on both ends. I don't remember the Brady criticism being that bad. If anything many posters here were jumping on those few critics. And even on it's worst day, this forum could never look as idiotic as a Jests forum.

The Brady criticism wasn't that "he sucks" for the most part, rather it was " trade Brady while they can... It's time for Jimmy G........" Which was still ******ed. Much of the Rodgers criticism here is of the "Rodgers Sucks" mentality, which is every bit as ignorant as a Jets forum. I get the recent criticism that he is not playing well and still has plenty of weapons he has experience with. I also get the take that he is overrated by the media, also true, Brady is clearly the better QB, my only objection is to the "he sucks" criticism, which is idiotic.
 
The mediots were not making excuses for Brady. They were proclaiming that Brady was done.

Rodgers isn't 37 so that might have something to do with that. It's easier to look at a 37 year old struggle and assume it's a decline due to age than it is to proclaim the end of a career for a QB in QB prime years. Of course, they were wrong about Brady.
 
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