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Discount Double Dork...you don't like it? FOAD...you can stick your head up Rodgers ass and lick his tonsils if you want...I'm a Patriot fan and a Tom Brady fan...you don't like it...ES&D.
 
  1. I think the thread's title should be changed.. at least by now. Jody=Jordy please. Because that's Nelson's name. He may have a sister named Jody but that would be her name, not his.
 
Jody had a nice run on Family Affair...

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I think more than jordy nelson, rodgers is missing a BB type coach who brady has. GB coaching staff has not made many adjustments worth helping both offense and defense. Brady has worked with anyone given to him but his support coaching staff has always be one of the best. No one self scouts like the pats something the packers seem to be missing , surprisingly this late in the season.
 
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Some of the posts here are insane. Besides Brady, I'd still take Rodgers over 30 other starting qb in this league.
 
You do make a reasonable point however, we're in week 12 of this season, not week 4 of last season. Nelson's been out long enough for Green Bay to adjust, they simply haven't.

FTR, I'm in the camp that a lot of Green Bay's problems start and end with McCarthy but I'm not surprised by Rodgers' performance one bit.

Green Bay's serious offensive struggles have only been limited to a few games. While they've been offensively substandard all season, they didn't really start to **** the bed until Denver, and they started out 6-0.
 
Green Bay's serious offensive struggles have only been limited to a few games. While they've been offensively substandard all season, they didn't really start to **** the bed until Denver, and they started out 6-0.

That's lots more disconcerting than a team like BB's typical entry that starts off slowly with the D getting progressively better. GB is a mess and it starts with the HC's mediocrity.
 
Because Brady is 14-4 in the rest of his playoff appearances? Maybe? Also, what are their records SINCE 2009? (Hint: Rodgers is 2-5, one of those being a clutch win over the immortal Joe Webb)

This is the thing, you can throw regular-season stats up all you want, and all that proves is that he's a very good QB on a very good team, which was good before he got there - drafted well - and is still good.

Jordy Nelson "making" Aaron Rodgers is nonsense. You know that.

What you can't refute (and none of the Rodgers defenders can), is once the Packers trail by two scores, Aaron Rodgers has never been able to overcome that deficit. Ever.

That doesn't even pass the Peyton Manning check, never mind Tom Brady.

Newton, Palmer, hell Andy Dalton - I've seen all these guys lead their teams back from multiple scores to win. I've never, ever seen Aaron Rodgers do that. Ever. I'm not arguing Rodgers has had a better career, only that I see the logic behind someone calling Rodgers the best *right now*. Even if I think its debatable.

It's easy to put up stats when you're a frontrunner, and your defense and coaching can help carry you. Now that it can't, and there have been injuries on offense, where are they, exactly?


So are you totally discounting regular season stats? The guy has 105 passer rating in the reg season and 101 in the post-season.

FYI, if you discount last year Brady is under .500 in the postseason since 2009, too. Stop cherrypicking stats.

Brady obviously had a great postseason run early in his career. This thread was a discussion of who's the best QB right now, so I used the comparable time frame when Rodgers has been active.

I guess he doesn't have a bunch of 4th qtr comebacks, but considering the success he's had with GB he really hasn't had many opportunities. 4th qtr comebacks has become this kind of en vogue statisitc, but I just don't think it's that valuable. It's as much of an indicator of not playing well in the first three quarters as it is of some kind 'clutch indicator'.
 
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Also, Rodgers is less clutch than Peyton Manning. Just let that sink in.

Agree. Most people don't know this but, Rodgers is 0-28 when down by more then 9 points.
And rodgers is like 101 in NFL History with come back drives at 13.
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Just let that sink in People.
 
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Some of the posts here are insane. Besides Brady, I'd still take Rodgers over 30 other starting qb in this league.
For an off year, his numbers are still off the charts. But if is funny that they claimed he was on another level.
 
Green Bay's serious offensive struggles have only been limited to a few games. While they've been offensively substandard all season, they didn't really start to **** the bed until Denver, and they started out 6-0.
That's the thing about the top level. Once flaws are exposed, they become pretty obvious and your opponents can key in on them.
 
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Agree. Most people don't know this but, Rodgers is 0-28 when down by more then 9 points.
And rodgers is like 101 in NFL History with come back drives at 13.
The dude is a Choke artist at its finest.
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Just let that sink in People.

Mark Sanchez is 1 behind Rodgers in comeback drives lol
 
Discount double-choke!

What brilliant word-smithing there.

I will commend some of the posters on this board for not following the ridiculous crap written about Aaron Rodgers. I've tried to address it before but I've found it pointless.

No, Rodgers isn't having a great year, so let's all just pile all the negative comments we can on top of him from the "he's always been overrated" to "it's everybody's fault but his." You sure as hell don't read what they're saying about Rodgers in GB if you think that.

Rodgers' bad year would make 20 other QBs in this league drool.

As poorly as the GB offense has played, it is interesting to note that in the last several games "choker" Rodgers has done the following:

Carolina: 4th quarter comeback against a team they totally outplayed the Packers, missed a 2-point conversion that would have tied it with an INT. Fault: Rodgers.
Detroit: 4th quarter comeback, down by that 9-point difference you guys always love to bring up (as opposed to 1000 other different stats where Rodgers shines, and no, it's not 0-28 it's less than that). Game tying 2-point conversion dropped by Davante Adams. Defender made an excellent play on the ball but it was still in Adams' hands and he dropped it. With seconds left, Rodgers marches the Packers down into FG range for the game winner and Crosgy shanks it. Packers lose.
Chicago: Rodgers almost single -handedly marches the Packers down the field in another last-chance drive, scrambling and passing for big gains. 3rd and goal. James Jones drops a TD pass. In his hands. 4th and goal. No receivers are open because they all do curl-ins and sit there, Rodgers puts the ball high to Davante Adams, it's catchable, goes through his hands.

3 comebacks, one loss on Rodgers, twice not.

Irony is that if Brady's receivers had dropped TD passes like the Packers receivers had, I'd bet good money Brady would have gone ballistic and those guys would be benched, and you'd all be screaming for them to be benched.

I'll just finish by saying it may be a down year for the Rodgers and the Packers. If you all want to think that Rodgers never was that good and he's washed up, be my guest.

I'm done. Carry on.
 
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The irony is YOU, on a Patriots board, repeatedly pushing YOUR Aaron Rodgers agenda. 5 weeks ago he was the greatest QB in the galaxy...now he's "having a down year"...whatever you little friggin' girl. Take your Discount Doodie Chuck doll and go play on the Lions board.
 
Irony is that if Brady's receivers had dropped TD passes like the Packers receivers had, I'd bet good money Brady would have gone ballistic and those guys would be benched, and you'd all be screaming for them to be benched.

I'll just finish by saying it may be a down year for the Rodgers and the Packers. If you all want to think that Rodgers never was that good and he's washed up, be my guest.

I'm done. Carry on.[/QUOTE]

With all due respect to your observations, Welker in two different playoff games dropped passes which were our last chance to win. No one called for Welker to be benched.

Regarding Rogers; no is saying hes a scrub, he is a highly gifted athlete and passer. What he is not is the G. O. A. T.
Rogers has everything you can physically observe but he lacks one thing which can not be easily seen.

In my estimation Rogers lacks the heart of a Champion.

The one thing which can only be measured over time in wins. It is most easily seen in come back wins. Where the mind can not see how to win but the heart believes it and it happens. TB is the epitome of expressing a champions heart. A champions heart never doubts and it inspires all who are around it to believe as well. That is why TB makes the rest of team better because he believes that they will win so fervently that others are caught up in his never say die attitude. TB is a true natural leader who is able to get those around him to believe just because he believes. He inspires others to believe and brings out the best in them.

And to set the record straight Rogers has had 28 opportunities in his present career to overcome a nine point or more deficit in the second half and is 0-28 in those attempts.
 
Rodgers had SOOO many opportunities to win both the Detroit and CHI games it's not even funny. Especially last night. It looked like GB was picking up momentum and Cutler just kept giving the ball back to them and Rodgers couldn't do jack. I understand if you have just one or two drives, but he literally had the entire 4th quarter and at least 4 opportunities... and couldn't get it done. 13 points. Against the Cutler bears... Hell, Rodgers even had a running game. 177 yards on the ground. Brady would have his team up 30+ with a running game like that. How the f8ck do you only manage 13 points against the Bears with 177 rushing yards. It doesn't even make sense.

Just for perspective, Tom Brady is 51-1 when the Pats rush for 150 yards or more, the sole loss coming in '04 at the Dolphins (166 yards), where the team put up 28 points.
 
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