PP's Rich Hill claims Bills used Brady's protection calls against him

PP2 · Nov 25, 2015

I have been unable to find independent or further corroboration of this. Anyone care to weigh in on this?

Fixit · Nov 25, 2015

Maybe it's too early, but I don't know what Hill is saying Buffalo did here.

BTTA · Nov 25, 2015

Fixit said:
Maybe it's too early, but I don't know what Hill is saying Buffalo did here.

Yes, this might be a very interesting development but it does require some explanation.

Sicilian · Nov 25, 2015

It sounds like he's implying the Bills deciphered what Brady's protection calls are, and would adjust who blitzed based on who he called out? It's possible, especially since it wouldn't surprise me if the calls had to be simplified due to all the flux on the O-Line.

PatsWickedPissah · Nov 25, 2015

Is he saying that when Brady calls out the protection and blitzes the Bills simply blitzed different guys? I wish playing D was that simple.

Froob · Nov 25, 2015

*5-5

*denotes cheated, see traingate whistlegate and protectioncallgate.

RobertWeathers · Nov 25, 2015

I guess I follow. Is he accusing the Bills of any nefarious behavior?

I was under the assumption that teams did this all the time....?

Deus Irae · Nov 25, 2015

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1960Pats · Nov 25, 2015

PP2 said:
I have been unable to find independent or further corroboration of this. Anyone care to weigh in on this?

This came up briefly somewhere else here, maybe in the post game thread. The Bills were right much too often and were getting free shots at Brady all game long.

ausbacker · Nov 25, 2015

If the Bills somehow managed to decipher the Patriots protection calls and still conceded 20 points with a missed FG and an idiotic turnover, then shame on them.

The Gr8est · Nov 25, 2015

Sicilian said:
It sounds like he's implying the Bills deciphered what Brady's protection calls are, and would adjust who blitzed based on who he called out? It's possible, especially since it wouldn't surprise me if the calls had to be simplified due to all the flux on the O-Line.

Sounds like cheating to me, and I 'm sure it will to Roger, once Ted Wells files his report.

Because integrity!

Uncle Rico · Nov 25, 2015

ausbacker said:
If the Bills somehow managed to decipher the Patriots protection calls and still conceded 20 points with a missed FG and an idiotic turnover, then shame on them.

Hah -- true. No wonder Rex was so apoplectic. I also read where one of their DBs said (paraphrase) "we knew all their routes," blah blah blah. I agree that it's all part of normal football; just irksome to think what a national, innuendo-laden crap storm it would be if it was the Patriots.

Galeb · Nov 25, 2015

1960Pats said:
This came up briefly somewhere else here, maybe in the post game thread. The Bills were right much too often and were getting free shots at Brady all game long.

Before the half I mentioned that the Bills likely had the Pat's protection calls translated before the game. It sounded to me like the Pats started changing up the protection call labels before the end of the first half. Even after the Pats adjusted their calls, Pat's OLinement were frequently losing 1 on 1 battles.

PrairiePat · Nov 25, 2015

Sounds like the Bills did their homework on the Pats' line calls. That explains why the protection seemed so awful. Time to step up the level of disguise on those calls I guess.

Danger Zone · Nov 25, 2015

Galeb said:
Before the half I mentioned that the Bills likely had the Pat's protection calls translated before the game. It sounded to me like the Pats started changing up the protection call labels before the end of the first half. Even after the Pats adjusted their calls, Pat's OLinement were frequently losing 1 on 1 battles.

Wonder if that's where the Rex Ryan tag came from, from having to rename their plays on the fly.

Galeb · Nov 25, 2015

PrairiePat said:
Sounds like the Bills did their homework on the Pats' line calls. That explains why the protection seemed so awful. Time to step up the level of disguise on those calls I guess.

Unless the Pats didn't change their protection calls between games, deciphering calls before the start of a game isn't homework, it's espionage.

Galeb · Nov 25, 2015

Danger Zone said:
Wonder if that's where the Rex Ryan tag came from, from being relabeled on the fly.

That's how I interpreted it.

RobertWeathers · Nov 25, 2015

PrairiePat said:
Sounds like the Bills did their homework on the Pats' line calls. That explains why the protection seemed so awful. Time to step up the level of disguise on those calls I guess.

Seeing that Ryan has squared off vs BB 15 times or whatever the fact that it took him this long to decipher the protection schemes makes him look like a bigger idiot than I thought he was.

This is the kind of thing Ernie would have had nailed over a cup of coffee.

Galeb · Nov 25, 2015

robertweathers said:
Seeing that Ryan has squared off vs BB 15 times or whatever the fact that it took him this long to decipher the protection schemes makes him look like a bigger idiot than I thought he was.

This is the kind of think Ernie would have had nailed over a cup of coffee.

By decipher, he likely means the specific words used to call the protections that game. I'm fairly certain these are changed between every game.

Sicilian · Nov 25, 2015

Danger Zone said:
Wonder if that's where the Rex Ryan tag came from, from having to rename their plays on the fly.

I thought the Rex Ryan call was pretty early in the game?

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