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Good survey of prior inadvertent whistles here - there were a rash of them in 2012:

inadvertent whistle | Football Zebras

Note also they think the final play of the game should indeed have stopped the clock - no difference whether (voluntarily) going forwards or backwards when going out of bounds.
 
Bigger issue is Rex going on chalk to yell at ref during the live play and it was this which distracted the ref. This is huge and if Bill did this he would be banned from NFL.

That's part of the play that isn't getting much attention: Ryan clearly yelled something at the ref on the sideline that caused him to blow his whistle. It's not exactly clear what Rex yelled to the ref, but my guess it was something to the effect of "He stepped out!" or "He's out of bounds!"

I know coaches say stuff to try and influence the refs all the time. I think there's a difference between yelling about holding, for example, when the official who watches for that is halfway across the field versus yelling at a guy who is 5 feet from you. Since Brady wasn't in danger of stepping out before he threw that pass, Rex was hoping to trick the guy into whistling the play dead.

Maybe even a bigger issue than that was that it worked. These aren't the refs for a JV high school game. These are the best football officials available. Why did that official instantly believe what Rex Ryan told him when he could just look on the field and see that Brady hadn't stepped out? It shouldn't be that easy to influence an NFL official.
 
If we hadn't won the game, I'd be flipping out right now. As is, I sigh and shake my head. ANYTHING to beat the Pats.

On the subject of the refs, it really is time to make them full-time.
 
It was probably like...."Look at those feet, look at those hall of fame feet. Delicious!"

And the ref choked and blew his whistle.
 
That's part of the play that isn't getting much attention: Ryan clearly yelled something at the ref on the sideline that caused him to blow his whistle. It's not exactly clear what Rex yelled to the ref, but my guess it was something to the effect of "He stepped out!" or "He's out of bounds!"

I know coaches say stuff to try and influence the refs all the time. I think there's a difference between yelling about holding, for example, when the official who watches for that is halfway across the field versus yelling at a guy who is 5 feet from you. Since Brady wasn't in danger of stepping out before he threw that pass, Rex was hoping to trick the guy into whistling the play dead.

Maybe even a bigger issue than that was that it worked. These aren't the refs for a JV high school game. These are the best football officials available. Why did that official instantly believe what Rex Ryan told him when he could just look on the field and see that Brady hadn't stepped out? It shouldn't be that easy to influence an NFL official.

Him being on the white is a violation never mind interfering with a reff. "First Border - The only persons allowed in this solid white six-foot (minimum) area on a continuous basis during the game are the Game Officials and the chain crew; no coaches or players."
 
Frustrating play, at least he admitted they screwed up. If Goodell was a ref he never would have admitted an error.
 
It made me stop watching. In reviewing it, I can see now that the referee's line of sight was blocked by Ryan. Ryan should have been tossed after that.
 
Part of me thinks that the Ref was aggravated because Rex was complaining the whole game and when he finally crossed the line, he couldn't wait to penalize him and inadvertently blew the whistle instead of throwing the flag.
 
Bigger issue is Rex going on chalk to yell at ref during the live play and it was this which distracted the ref. This is huge and if Bill did this he would be banned from NFL.
You can see that the Ref actually had to put his hands on Rex when the ball was passed to get around him and see Amendola. I understand that coaches often go close to the refs and want to point things out to them. It happens all the time. But when the ref has to move around you during a play to even see where it's going, then you've taken it way to far.
 
Pats 20 Steratore crew/Foot fetishist/Jills 13
 
If anything it showed to the NFL World what a bag of wind Rex really is.. lots of noise, little substance.
 
The NFL, to me at least, is almost getting to a point where it's becoming too tedious to follow. There used to be a time when I would scream at the TV over something like that. I've broken numerous remotes and punched holes in my drywall, but I still watched. Last night, I didn't even so much as raised my voice and, for the first time since I could remember, I turned off a primetime game in favor of going to sleep.

Between the ******** with Spygate and Defamegate, the referees constantly having to make sure their faces are on TV, extreme over saturation, Goodell taking measures to water down the game, and Kraft capitulating to the first example (then HUGGING him in New York), I'm almost at the point where I'm over it. And this is in the midst of an undefeated run during a championship defense.
 
I started drinking the hard stuff at halftime........made it all easier to handle

paying for it now
 
As some still are maintaining that the call at the end of the game was correct, read this from that same site:

Sideline play runs out clock. Although the inadvertent whistle is inexcusable, it is at least understandable. It is a mistake for which there is no eraser. However, a breakdown at the end of the game left ESPN announcer Mike Tirico lamenting, “What a screwed up night of plays and officiating this was. Wow!”

Wide receiver Sammy Watkins caught the ball for the Bills near the sideline. With two seconds on the clock, he did what any player in that situation would do: go for the sideline at the sacrifice of gaining additional yardage. Watkins fell out of bounds, but second-year head linesman Ed Walker ruled that Watkins had surrendered himself as down and not advancing. Steratore in the post-game interview:

What we had as far as the last play with Buffalo’s reception was that the receiver gave himself up voluntarily in the field of play. When that occurs and we deem that the runner, which he would have been after he maintained possession after his reception, he was now a runner, had given himself up in the field of play. Then fact that he scoots out of bounds is not as important. We wound the clock. It was a judgement call by that head linesman that he felt like he gave himself up in the field of play. It’s not a reviewable play. So winding the clock or stopping the clock is not something we review. So, in his judgement, he deemed that the runner gave himself up in the field of play voluntarily, which does put him down by contact in the field, so he wound [the clock].

Where to begin?

This could not possibly be “down by contact” without any defensive contact, rather it is a “declared dead ball” in the absence of a down-by-contact, out-of-bounds, incomplete-pass or other similar ruling.

The surrender technique is when a player essentially gives up on the play — either by taking a knee or remaining on the ground without any effort to advance. In referee’s parlance, an “advance” can be backward, particularly in a sideline play where lateral yardage is gained just as much as goal-ward yardage. As long as the runner is voluntarily ceding territory in the advance, his forward progress spot moves back with him. If the position of the ball is moving, there is no way that the runner has given up an opportunity to advance. He is retreating, not surrendering.

A surrendered player is also not subject to be tackled, but a player heading for the sideline must be touched down or contacted, whichever is appropriate, in order to keep the ball in bounds. A player pushed backwards out of bounds may also be ruled “in bounds” if the forward progress spot is in the field of play.

While replay can intervene in a clock operator error (if the error is more than two seconds at the expiration of the half and many other caveats), there is no review to rule the ball dead at :02 when Watkins goes out of bounds. Since the signal is to wind the clock, the clock operator did not make an error. If the side judge determined that Watkins should be ruled out of bounds, and if he noted there was time remaining on the clock, the two officials could add the time back in a conference. Also, if the side judge and head linesman had conflicting signals, and the stoppage wins out in conference, it appears the rule will allow the stop signal to be reviewed.

The explanation of this play, though, has made the error worse, because it is not rooted in an applicable rule or sensible in any semblance of basic football time-management strategy. It is a perversion of the rules to cover for Walker at best. It is a complete lack of reasoning or a misapplication of the rules at worst.

Either way, it erodes the confidence the fans and teams have in the crews’ abilities which damns the 2015 season as a lost cause for officiating.​

http://www.footballzebras.com/2015/11/24/13695/
 
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