DT rotation

SONS_OF_BELICHICK · Nov 20, 2015

I like our Dline...a mix of veterans and youth. I think Jones will be let go..he is on the smaller side...and I prefer the larger bodies... int he middle...

mgteich · Nov 20, 2015

50-yard-line said:
And wholeheartedly agree: Hightower, Collins, and Jones are the priority.

Which of these players is a free agent in 2016?

Hercules Rockefeller · Nov 20, 2015

pencilneckgeek said:
OK. Now you're just being silly.

Actually, there were also several members of this board who saw that it was time to part ways with Big Vince and make way for new, cheaper blood.

I never understood the hand wringing over the move. Vince is an all time Patriot but last year he simply wasn't as effective, he had a handful of solid games but was no longer the dominant Vince of old. He got paid well, and set his family further up financially.

No bad blood, and Vince will be like Willie Mac, welcomed back with open arms and forever loved like he never left.

50-yard-line · Nov 20, 2015

mgteich said:
Which of these players is a free agent in 2016?

I'm kind of hoping we lock one or two up before that happens...

ctpatsfan77 · Nov 20, 2015

Brady6 said:
Spell check for some reason wants it to be Nicks...

I think Siliga signed a tender this offseason making him a UFA this offseason.

Per @Miguel, he's an RFA this offseason, and a UFA next offseason.

RobertWeathers · Nov 20, 2015

Hercules Rockefeller said:
I never understood the hand wringing over the move. Vince is an all time Patriot but last year he simply wasn't as effective, he had a handful of solid games but was no longer the dominant Vince of old. He got paid well, and set his family further up financially.

No bad blood, and Vince will be like Willie Mac, welcomed back with open arms and forever loved like he never left.

From Day 1 I never understood the confusion. With the exception of Brady, this team has NEVER paid more than $4m a year for a player 34 years old or older.

2014 was not 2013 and 2013 was not 2012 or 2011 VW.

zipster9 · Nov 20, 2015

RayClay said:
Branch has been the difference in run defense, which was questionable early. Good for him, he simple upped his game and turned ferocious.

The inside pass rush has yet to click IMO. When Sheard and Flowers, or others start adding to Easley's pressure, plus the linebackers, we'll really have something.

Yes. We need Branch to play Monday. Need to make Bills 1-dimensional. Take the run away, have Tyrod beat us.

Miguel · Nov 21, 2015

Silifga signed an ERFA tender in March. He will be an RFA in 2016.
He accrued seasons (6 games on 53-man roster or IR) in 2012, 2014, and 2015. Missing making 2013 an accrued season by 1 game.

Brady6 · Nov 21, 2015

robertweathers said:
I'd stop short of comparing Hicks to a fmr All-Pro just yet.

Agree, though. I think they really try to keep him. He's youngerand quicker than Branch and a better rusher than Seal.

In terms of talent he has Ngata type skill set and athleticism. How that translates on the field is still an unknown.

NE-VT · Nov 21, 2015

BlitzFritz said:
What exactly are the specific roles of the DTs, beyond Easley on third down? Brown, Branch, Hicks, Silinga - they are seem similar to me as cloggers in the middle. Is it just about keeping them fresh and having super depth? Or is there more nuance here, which I would love to appreciate?

I am interested in this as well. Does anyone have an idea of the different strengths of Brown, Branch, Hicks, and Silinga? Is the rotation only bo

JarOfMayo51 · Nov 21, 2015

I.M. Fletcher said:
I would argue the biggest difference between seattles Super Bowl winning team, losing team and this years team has beena chasmic dropoff in rotational front 7 players. They would destroy teams with constant pressure, allowing their secondary to shine. Now, with so many players signed to top of market deals, those guys are counted on to play minutes that works against their productivity, and their drafting hasn't filled in the necessary gaps.

Carroll's drafting is coming back down to earth now, he was milking 3-4 years of drafting based on his experience coaching in College.. but that knowledge and edge is drying up and now hes in the same crap shoot as everyone else

RobertWeathers · Nov 21, 2015

Brady6 said:
In terms of talent he has Ngata type skill set and athleticism. How that translates on the field is still an unknown.

If you are hell-bent on trying to compare a 3rd rounder who's career is in reboot mode to a popular fmr All-Pro DT, his physical dimensions and playing style are a lot closer to Seymour than Ngata.

Brady6 · Nov 22, 2015

robertweathers said:
If you are hell-bent on trying to compare a 3rd rounder who's career is in reboot mode to a popular fmr All-Pro DT, his physical dimensions and playing style are a lot closer to Seymour than Ngata.

I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. When you look at Hicks physical traits (weight, height, speed, etc.) he compares favorably to Ngata. Ngata was also his pro comparison pre-draft, Seymour was more of a end of the line type player entering the NFL. Seymour was under 300lbs and ran a sub 5 forty entering the draft, I actually see zero similarities between the two of them.

RobertWeathers · Nov 22, 2015

Brady6 said:
I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. When you look at Hicks physical traits (weight, height, speed, etc.) he compares favorably to Ngata. Ngata was also his pro comparison pre-draft, Seymour was more of a end of the line type player entering the NFL. Seymour was under 300lbs and ran a sub 5 forty entering the draft, I actually see zero similarities between the two of them.

I'm talking now.

mgteich · Nov 22, 2015

I think that we should extend Siliga and Hicks, as soon as they will come to terms on new contracts. Chris Jones can be added, or not, but he plays a different position. He is an inside pass-rusher. DE's have been taking reps inside so far this year.

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