Giants fans thoughts on OBJ and Butler...

metrowest · Nov 16, 2015

Obj is a clown

Always fun reading...really glad Butler isn't working at Popeye's or wherever he was before BB brought him here.

That slap down probably won us the game...

everlong · Nov 16, 2015

I can see why they thought that after watching the clip but I'm not really convinced either way. Regardless calling him a clown is idiot. He competed really hard. I'd take him on our team in a heartbeat.

Kontradiction · Nov 16, 2015

Outside of the bomb, which was more of McCourty's fault (I thought this was McCourty's worst game of the season), Butler shut him down. I was very impressed with #21 yesterday. He has grown incredibly and is a rock solid CB1.

blackglass3 · Nov 16, 2015

Well if they can convince Jerry Reese to cut him, I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Pats uniform.

JayNM · Nov 16, 2015

I have been criticizing Butler a lot this season. I did not jump the bandwagon that he would be a good #1 Corner this year (THIS YEAR should be emphasized here), I don't think he has played all that well so far.

But against the Giants, he was enormous (pun intended). Except for that first play, he completely nullified one of the best WR in the league, with minimal support.

I am not ready to say that he will be a great number one corner yet, I feel like he lacks athleticism overall (I've seen him failing to keep up with some of the fastest receivers- not necessarily the best ones), but he definitely has tremendous tenacity, is incredibly smart and possess an amazing awareness. If he plays like this constanly for the rest of his career, he could be something truly special

JayNM · Nov 16, 2015

OH, just another thought, not on Butler, but on another young CB

Ryan has been great as a number 2 CB. Last game, in particular, i felt like he didn't let a single reception (This is probably very wrong, lol), since everytime I saw him competing, he came out on top.

I am very confident with our top 2 corners this year. Like I said, I don't think they are spectacular, but I do see some signs of brilliance sporadically. It is great that they are very young and could became much better. Coleman is also someone who has been playing well, until yesterday. If he was our number 4 CB, i would be extremely pleased, as our number 3 though, it could get hairy sometime along the season. Still, he falls on the same category of Butler and Ryan: Young, can get better.

Melvin...well... never mind

VrabelJr · Nov 16, 2015

JayNM said:
I have been criticizing Butler a lot this season. I did not jump the bandwagon that he would be a good #1 Corner this year (THIS YEAR should be emphasized here), I don't think he has played all that well so far.

But against the Giants, he was enormous (pun intended). Except for that first play, he completely nullified one of the best WR in the league, with minimal support.

I am not ready to say that he will be a great number one corner yet, I feel like he lacks athleticism overall (I've seen him failing to keep up with some of the fastest receivers- not necessarily the best ones), but he definitely has tremendous tenacity, is incredibly smart and possess an amazing awareness. If he plays like this constanly for the rest of his career, he could be something truly special

You're on an island all by yourself with that analysis, pal.

memento · Nov 16, 2015

Some of those comments I'd probably agree with if I were watching Odell Beckhem Jr all season, but I don't think he was showboating on the missed touchdown. There wasn't enough time to showboat, it was a fraction of a second, which is why it wasn't a catch in the first place.

Like the Dez Bryant non-catch in the playoffs last year. He claims he was stretching out to make the touchdown, but if he had the presence of mind to stretch for it he should have had the presence of mind to establish possession. It would have been a huge first down.

JayNM · Nov 16, 2015

VrabelJr said:
You're on an island all by yourself with that analysis, pal.

yeah, It does get pretty lonely here, but that's just a guy's opinion.

Life would get boring if I just agreed with everything, right

SHOWTIME15 · Nov 16, 2015

question about stats - do Pass interference yardage gets added to a WR's stat line?

JayNM · Nov 16, 2015

TommyBrady12 said:
question about stats - do Pass interference yardage gets added to a WR's stat line?

It doesn't

dannydyn · Nov 16, 2015

Whoa.... I thought I was the only one thinking this guy is a royal douchebag. Turns out even Giants fans can't stand that luffa hair d-bag. LOL

Fencer · Nov 16, 2015

everlong said:
I can see why they thought that after watching the clip but I'm not really convinced either way. Regardless calling him a clown is idiot. He competed really hard. I'd take him on our team in a heartbeat.

Whatever his motivation, he put the ball into the vicinity of Butler's left arm, even more by turning his body than by waving the ball around.

Had he not done that, he would have been in greater danger of having it poked out by Butler's right arm. That still would have been a better choice. Basically, he needed to concentrate on finishing the play.

Fencer · Nov 16, 2015

JayNM said:
OH, just another thought, not on Butler, but on another young CB

Ryan has been great as a number 2 CB. Last game, in particular, i felt like he didn't let a single reception (This is probably very wrong, lol), since everytime I saw him competing, he came out on top.

I am very confident with our top 2 corners this year. Like I said, I don't think they are spectacular, but I do see some signs of brilliance sporadically. It is great that they are very young and could became much better. Coleman is also someone who has been playing well, until yesterday. If he was our number 4 CB, i would be extremely pleased, as our number 3 though, it could get hairy sometime along the season. Still, he falls on the same category of Butler and Ryan: Young, can get better.

Melvin...well... never mind

If WRs don't look brilliant sometimes, they're probably lousy. To a lesser extent, I think that's true of CBs as well.

glm · Nov 16, 2015

JayNM said:
I have been criticizing Butler a lot this season. I did not jump the bandwagon that he would be a good #1 Corner this year (THIS YEAR should be emphasized here), I don't think he has played all that well so far.

But against the Giants, he was enormous (pun intended). Except for that first play, he completely nullified one of the best WR in the league, with minimal support.

I am not ready to say that he will be a great number one corner yet, I feel like he lacks athleticism overall (I've seen him failing to keep up with some of the fastest receivers- not necessarily the best ones), but he definitely has tremendous tenacity, is incredibly smart and possess an amazing awareness. If he plays like this constanly for the rest of his career, he could be something truly special

Butler lacks athleticism and can't keep up with fast receivers? Um no. You already acknowledged he was shutting down OBJ (possibly the most athletic receiver in the league and definitely one of the fastest), he shut down Desean Jackson, and was stride for stride with Antonio Brown the entire Steelers game.

Malcolm Butler is definitely athletic enough to be a number 1 corner. Hell he already is a number one corner and a damn good one at that.

ausbacker · Nov 16, 2015

Showboating? Looks more like momentum to me. Strengthens the point that people see what they want to see.

Butler made another excellent, clutch play. He's been up and down this year but I feel pretty confident he's going to make a fine DB. He has an appetite for the contest. I love that.

ALP · Nov 16, 2015

im with the group who thinks he was starting to celebrate...that is NOT how you tuck away a football regardless of anything

also, not a catch...he begins to put it away while his first foot hits the ground (and his hands leave the ball), so that foot doesn't necessarily count, and then he loses the ball before he gets his 2nd/3rd step in (2nd if you dont consider the first foot official for reason I gave above)

Bobsyouruncle · Nov 16, 2015

If he makes that catch then I think it's 2:06, one time out plus the two minute warning for Brady.

For Tom Brady

9-0 regardless

Giants fans thoughts on OBJ and Butler...

metrowest

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SHOWTIME15

No asterisks

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