Schefter on Lewis: No swelling yet (good) but ACL loose (bad)

TriplecHamp · Nov 9, 2015

blackglass3 said:
I have a partially torn ACL, which was described as "loose" years ago when it happened. I never had surgery because it wasn't fully torn. So, we can still be hopeful.

I too had a partially torn ACL but mine actually went ahead and tore completely a few months later

LJRomanoff · Nov 9, 2015

The Gr8est said:
We've entered the last three games with only six OL and have finished each game less healthy than before. There are currently questions about the health of Vollmer, Jackson, Andrews, and maybe Mason.

That is scary and risky to stay with the status quo.

The fact that Mason and Stork played the last game negates your "less healthy than before" argument.

Hop Hop Schaefer City · Nov 9, 2015

patchick said:
I agree, and Chao actually has a good track record.

Not sure how to link to the story, but he has been barred from performing surgery in at least one hospital in San Diego. Allegedly maiming patients and it also mentions alcohol consumption.

patchick · Nov 9, 2015

Hop Hop Schaefer City said:
Not sure how to link to the story, but he has been barred from performing surgery in at least one hospital in San Diego. Allegedly maiming patients and it also mentions alcohol consumption.

Could be, but I wasn't talking about his track record as a surgeon -- just in the minor realm of divining injuries from televised sporting events.

aluminum seats · Nov 9, 2015

Hop Hop Schaefer City said:
Not sure how to link to the story, but he has been barred from performing surgery in at least one hospital in San Diego. Allegedly maiming patients and it also mentions alcohol consumption.

The Medical Board Says David Chao Is A Drunk. Former Patients Say He's A Quack. Why Is He An NFL Team Doctor?

Hop Hop Schaefer City · Nov 9, 2015

patchick said:
Could be, but I wasn't talking about his track record as a surgeon -- just in the minor realm of divining injuries from televised sporting events.

Fair enough and I probably should not have quoted your post specifically. I just meant to provide some information on his background.

reflexblue · Nov 9, 2015

luuked said:
I dont understand everyone's issue here. He is giving his opinion the same way pundits are giving theirs. He even emphasizes that this is solely based on video and has no scientific base.

Again I don't give a crap about the guy but also dont mind hearing from an experienced person what his immediate reaction is.

Were you here yesterday and lst night for the marathon "what is garbage time" debate? if you were than it shouldn't be hard to understand how this doctors diagnosis using video would be bandied about to such an extent. I did say that after watching the video if Chow said it Could be, or Might be an acl would be one thing, but IF he definitively said it was an acl that would be another thing altogether. And since i use to work in the medical profession for many years i'm programmed to question how someone could make a DX by looking at a video and not examining the pt.

dannydyn · Nov 9, 2015

UUUUGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Brandon_Cox · Nov 9, 2015

aluminum seats said:
The Medical Board Says David Chao Is A Drunk. Former Patients Say He's A Quack. Why Is He An NFL Team Doctor?

He's the Lester Munson of Doctors!

Ross12 · Nov 9, 2015

aluminum seats said:
The Medical Board Says David Chao Is A Drunk. Former Patients Say He's A Quack. Why Is He An NFL Team Doctor?

Because #integrity

JMC00 · Nov 9, 2015

Not that it means anything in regards to Lewis but when a player is done for the year the Pats are usually pretty quick about confirming it. But with Mayo and Ridley last year they pretty much immediately came out and said they were done for they year, we certainly knew by the afternoon the next day.

sambam94 · Nov 9, 2015

non contact injury like this never good..hoping for the best, but fearing he is headed to IR.
If loose ACL report is accurate, I believe the only fix is surgery....correct?

deters · Nov 9, 2015

Um, he's fine. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Lewis with Brady at 31 Flavors last night getting avocado ice cream, and he was walking ok. I guess it's not too serious.

Nikolai · Nov 9, 2015

JMC00 said:
Not that it means anything in regards to Lewis but when a player is done for the year the Pats are usually pretty quick about confirming it. But with Mayo and Ridley last year they pretty much immediately came out and said they were done for they year, we certainly knew by the afternoon the next day.

That's my hope too, but wasn't Solder a 2-3 day wait?

bbobbo · Nov 9, 2015

JMC00 said:
Not that it means anything in regards to Lewis but when a player is done for the year the Pats are usually pretty quick about confirming it. But with Mayo and Ridley last year they pretty much immediately came out and said they were done for they year, we certainly knew by the afternoon the next day.

actually, it took four days for both to be officially IRed.

Mayo and Ridley were placed on season-ending injured reserve by the Patriots on Thursday, according to the NFL transaction wire. Both players suffered severe knee injuries last Sunday in the Patriots’ 37-22 win over the Buffalo Bills.

Read more at: Jerod Mayo, Stevan Ridley Out For Season After Patriots Put Them On IR

RobertWeathers · Nov 9, 2015

sambam94 said:
non contact injury like this never good..hoping for the best, but fearing he is headed to IR.
If loose ACL report is accurate, I believe the only fix is surgery....correct?

FWIW

Still sounds bleak.

If you have a functional partial tear of your ACL, that means that you have torn a certain portion of your ACL fibers, however, you are still able to participate in sports without the feeling of the knee giving way or being unstable. If you possess a nonfunctional partial tear of your ACL, that means that you have torn enough of your ACL fibers that your knee no longer feel stable. That means that you are at risk of further injury if you return to your prior level of sports participation. Every time your knee buckles or gives way you run the risk of tearing other structures within the knee, such as the medial or lateral meniscus. If you sustain tears of either the medial or lateral meniscus, which are the shock absorbers with within the knee, then you are at risk of developing osteoarthritis. You therefore want to eliminate or minimize the risk of buckling, instability or giving way and therefore a patient who presents with a partial ACL tear, who complains of instability, will likely present as an appropriate candidate to consider an ACL reconstruction or possibly an ACL augmentation.

......

In an ACL augmentation, you have only sustained a partial tear. That means that a portion of your ACL remains intact and should be normal. Many competent sports medicine orthopedic surgeons are capable of reconstructing only the torn portion of the ligament, leaving the normal portion alone. There are many advantages to an ACL partial tear augmentation over a full ACL reconstruction. While the discomfort, and the nature of the surgery is virtually identical – – – it is far more likely that someone who undergoes an augmentation will have a much more natural feeling knee when all is said and done. The reason for that is because the normal ACL has certain nerves within it. Those nerve fibers give the brain certain feedback as to the position of the knee joint. It turns out that those nerve fibers are quite important. If we preserve the intact portion of your ACL, then we are preserving those nerve fibers and hopefully preserving the integrity of your knee in the long run.

Partial Anterior Cruciate Ligament ( ACL ) Tears - Howard J. Luks, MD

letekro · Nov 9, 2015

Not a doctor, but it seems reasonable to conclude that a loose ACL spells doom for a player like Lewis. Very unfortunate. Brady-Gronk-Edelman-Amendola-LaFell still a very very strong skill position group, even if they get nothing out of the scat back position, and we all know they will get something out of Bolden/White/FA.

Oswlek · Nov 9, 2015

bbobbo said:
actually, it took four days for both to be officially IRed.

Wasn't that the night of the Jet game? With so little time to prep it is understandable why the team didn't feel it was worth IRing them sooner. If Lewis is gone, I suspect we'll know by tomorrow so they can make a corresponding roster move for Wednesday's practice.

aluminum seats · Nov 9, 2015

deters said:
Um, he's fine. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Lewis with Brady at 31 Flavors last night getting avocado ice cream, and he was walking ok. I guess it's not too serious.

#prayforferris

dannydyn · Nov 9, 2015

and only the donkeys have a healthy squad, lead by Galib the eye-poker.... ****KKKK!!!!

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