Rumor: Browns having fire sale (merged)

PatsWickedPissah said:

This thread is missing that moron who used to post ludicrously impossible trades oblivious of cap considerations who called everybody "cousin".

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Yeah, I know that guy, here is what he drives. Want some free candy cousin?

I had a dustup with him on his last trade thread many months ago. He took serious offense when I challenged him to back up his assertion that several of his proposed trades had happened. I kept on him. Not been here since. Addition by subtraction.

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Just got a PM from Ian asking me to help the forum & leave

They can trade for a guy like rashean mathis if he can still run. I like darius slay as well but idk if the lions would shop him.

PatsWickedPissah said:

This thread is missing that moron who used to post ludicrously impossible trades oblivious of cap considerations who called everybody "cousin".

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Kerry from Bosco's list?

n6249c said:

Practicality. How does he pass the physical? Who will trade for a player who might be washed up and forced into retirement by a failed rehab?

DUH.

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A Torn Bicep injury while having a long recovery period is not seen as a career ending one for a LT. If the Browns feel he will be ready for next season and they are going on a "fire sale" this year anyway, they will be getting a solid young LT who is signed to a very manageable contract for two or three seasons (not sure if it's 2017 or 2018).

DUH.

smg93 said:

A Torn Bicep injury while having a long recovery period is not seen as a career ending one for a LT. If the Browns feel he will be ready for next season and they are going on a "fire sale" this year anyway, they will be getting a solid young LT who is signed to a very manageable contract for two or three seasons (not sure if it's 2017 or 2018).

DUH.

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And Pats screw up Cap for this year and next year.

Patsrock said:

And Pats screw up Cap for this year and next year.

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This was my first question. Are you certain a trade like this will have a detrimental impact on the cap and why?

DID THE FIRE SALE HAPPEN YET? WHO DID WE GET?

PatriotsPimp136 said:

They can trade for a guy like rashean mathis if he can still run. I like darius slay as well but idk if the lions would shop him.

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I'd love Slay. He still has one year left on his rookie deal, too. It might take a 3rd to get him if he's even available. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lions want to extend him.

How do we have so much dead money?

Patsrock said:

And Pats screw up Cap for this year and next year.

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Just a quick note on this point:

The Patriots have over $18 million in dead money this year.

smg93 said:

This was my first question. Are you certain a trade like this will have a detrimental impact on the cap and why?

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Not so much this year but next year his remaining bonus money comes accelerated to the cap.

VectorPrime said:

How do we have so much dead money?

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New England Patriots Salary Cap - Over the Cap

Revis $5m
Mankins $4m
Arrington $3.2
Fletcher $1.2
VW $900k

192,000 other players.

Do you like Collins, Hightower and Jones? Great! Then don't expect us to take on a contract like Joe Thomas' contract.

Deus Irae said:

Just a quick note on this point:

The Patriots have over $18 million in dead money this year.

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what does dead money mean? do we have an extra 18 million next year then?

Jason mccourrty or joe haden would be nice

Deus Irae said:

Just a quick note on this point:

The Patriots have over $18 million in dead money this year.

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The problem I see with a Mayo/Solder for Thomas trade is Pats will immediately give themselves 12.7M in dead money before 2016 starts

DanishPatFan said:

what does dead money mean? do we have an extra 18 million next year then?

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Means that the cap charge assigned to a player that is not on the active roster.

Barring any cuts of players on the current roster, right now next year is about $475k

Deus Irae said:

Just a quick note on this point:

The Patriots have over $18 million in dead money this year.

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$14+MM of that is for Revis $5MM, Mankins $4MM, Arrington $3.3MM Fletcher $1.2MM, and Vince $.9MM All of which come off the books in 2016. In fact next season will mark the first year since Hernandez went away that the Pats won't have a serious amount of dead money to deal with.

ChrisR2223 said:

Jason mccourrty or joe haden would be nice

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Joe Haden has been awful this year, and Jason McCourty just isn't good enough to justify his salary.