crownontherocks
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I cannot believe how bad the Browns are in the secondary and offensive line. On paper before the season both were supposed to be among the strongest position groups in the NFL.FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 OFFENSIVE LINES
Cleveland's OL blows. They are bad at every position. Not a single run gap or general statistic is above 22nd in the NFL. Their run stuff rate is 30th. Why would you want to trade for the most expensive mediocre pieces on a line that can't block anybody?
Obviously they don't have much of an offense. The QB takes sacks and the RBs aren't great. But the reputation of Joe Thomas and Alex Mack is built on making mediocre QBs and RBs look good. They aren't doing that any more.
The Browns surely won’t be able to get anything close to the Top 10 pick they spent on Mingo, but if they could get anything of value in a trade, they’d probably be willing to let Mingo go. This is a team building for the future, not trying to win in 2015.
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 OFFENSIVE LINES
Cleveland's OL blows. They are bad at every position. Not a single run gap or general statistic is above 22nd in the NFL. Their run stuff rate is 30th. Why would you want to trade for the most expensive mediocre pieces on a line that can't block anybody?
Obviously they don't have much of an offense. The QB takes sacks and the RBs aren't great. But the reputation of Joe Thomas and Alex Mack is built on making mediocre QBs and RBs look good. They aren't doing that any more.
There struggles on the OL is about coaching and not the players I suspect. I would take Joel Bitonio in a heartbeat if he was available.
with reports that the browns are putting mingo, thomas, mack, kruger on trade block. Could we lure joe haden from browns?
I'm sure if you put any of Thomas, Mack, or Bitonio on the Pats they would walk onto the field next week and perform well, due to the players around them and the coaching. Not saying they are unsalvageable.
Just saying they won't markedly improve their positions unless that position is manned by Cameron Flemming. BUT Flemming has the potential to get better and is dirt cheap, and now has the opportunity to do so quickly. (Bitonio too I suppose but the Browns aren't looking to dump him)
Well trading for Thomas would move Vollmer back to RT which would improve both positions so I don't think I entirely agree with you about the lack of a marked improvement. I don't think the maths work on a Thomas trade but he'd be a significant upgrade on Vollmer and/or Cannon.