Boomer Esiason: Brady is the GOAT. Chris Carter: On Verge of GOAT Status

BobDigital said:

Too bad Brady can't play mad all the time. I swear if he falls off I am going to kick his dog in front of him and run. I think i can out run him anyway

Help get him going again.

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Make sure you're wearing a Roger Goodell suit and face mask.

Froob said:

Arguably GOAT QB, coach, kicker and tight end when it's all said and done.

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Which kicker? Greatest clutch kicker or most accurate?

pats_premi said:

Boomer is a 2 faced jerk. He is gives out all the compliments when he on Boston radio and does the opposite when he is on New York radio with Carton.

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Absolutely correct.

robertweathers said:

Which kicker? Greatest clutch kicker or most accurate?

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Exactly. I think if you qualify it with "When its all said and done" that you could be talking about Ghost. He is only 31 and getting better.

robertweathers said:

Which kicker? Greatest clutch kicker or most accurate?

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Adam. Gost is up there but, not sure anybody else makes the snow bowl kick.

Oswlek said:

Chris Carter might be the stupidest person to ever regularly speak over the air waves. No hyperbole, he will not go 2 minutes without saying something so mind blowingly moronic that you are shaking your head in disbelief.

Seriously, he's a buffoon.

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Sorry but Emitt Smith retired that trophy.

Froob said:

Arguably GOAT QB, coach, kicker and tight end when it's all said and done.

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Viniateri will have the GOAT kicker label due to our first and second SB victories

MrNathanDrake said:

Viniateri will have the GOAT kicker label due to our first and second SB victories

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Percentage wise, Gostkowski is better. I doubt Gostkowski will ever be in those moments Vinatieri was, though.

MrNathanDrake said:

Viniateri will have the GOAT kicker label due to our first and second SB victories

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Only in patsfans minds. Other teams' fans won't give him much cred for that.

At the end of their careers, IMO, ghost will have better numbers. Pro bowl and HoF voters put a lot of stock in numbers. Ghost has the consecutive x-pt record that will likely never be touched. Probably will hold the best touchback ratio at the point he retires (unlikely to stand forever though). IMO both should make it in canton, but it will take a paradigm shift to get a pure kicker in.

With TB more in his prime, ghost hasn't had to have clutch moments that AV had AND succeeded at (so AV was more clutch), but at end of day if I had to pick one for my team (in their prime) it is Gost and not AV. He has more skills (and if time came, I think he could be exactly so clutch -I so wish BB had trusted him in the SB).

Gumby said:

Only in patsfans minds. Other teams' fans won't give him much cred for that.

At the end of their careers, IMO, ghost will have better numbers. Pro bowl and HoF voters put a lot of stock in numbers. Ghost has the consecutive x-pt record that will likely never be touched. Probably will hold the best touchback ratio at the point he retires (unlikely to stand forever though). IMO both should make it in canton, but it will take a paradigm shift to get a pure kicker in.

With TB more in his prime, ghost hasn't had to have clutch moments that AV had AND succeeded at (so AV was more clutch), but at end of day if I had to pick one for my team (in their prime) it is Gost and not AV. He has more skills (and if time came, I think he could be exactly so clutch -I so wish BB had trusted him in the SB).

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I agree with your perception when it comes to HoF voting. Writers put a lot stock in numbers. With that said AV is #2 in GW kicks and #3 in scoring All-Time. He has the numbers to get in

However there are a lot of players with big numbers who aren't in the HoF.

If you throw in the 3 greatest clutch kicks that helped define one of the greatest football dynasty in NFL history, he will get in as this is why Morten Andersen is not in the HoF. No Super Bowls even though he has 35 GW kicks.