jests fans - Is Pats Violating The Salary Cap With Brady?

Nikolai said:

The fact that he implies paying Sanchez like that was the right thing to do tells you all you need to know about the philosophy and culture of some of the loser teams out there and their fanbases.

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Some of this philosophy can be used in everyday living. For example, wrapping a 100 dollar bill around a stack of ones is a good investment.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

This blogger, who has an interest in economics, goes to absurd lengths to compile "evidence" of cheating. Don't take his ideas seriously, but it's one of the more interesting "cheating" pieces you'll find out there.

If you're sick and tired of all these conspiracy theories (and would rather focus on the upcoming game) then I'd encourage you to not click on this blog, or ignore this thread all together. But for those looking for a good laugh, I'll just post this excerpt for your own amusement.

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My favorite part:

I am pretty sure I heard Greg Bedard from Sports Illustrated and a former Patriots beat reporter on the radio a few weeks ago indicate he thinks...

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I'm too lazy to check whether he actually said this, and even if he did it was just an opinion, and even if he did say that opinion which he may not have actually said it doesn't prove cheating, but I'm still going to make my speculation of his speculation a pillar of my argument.

How does that get published? I couldn't get away with that in middle school writing.

I see this as 2 things

1. Brady LOVES playing football
2. Brady/Patriot success has lead to extra income (endorsements, publicity, ...)

I'm going to start with Item (2). Brady is a person who has a presence outside of sports and is recognized from people outside of football as well (but it's really about football). He could easily go Peyton Manning and try to be in every commercial possible and earn more that way, but I don't believe he does. He's more into ownership and buying into companies for the "long-term".

You could even say his success is caused by, by being (A) and all time great and (B) having the best coach of his era or even all time has given him international exposure and got the attention of the world's #1 supermodel, who happens to be more successful and his wife. While I'm sure they mix finances, they probably have prenups and I don't even want to know (as I hope they both remain happy together for the rest of their lives).

This brings me back to point (1). Brady does everything he can to prolong his career and part of that is maintaining his health, it also is knowing that if he prices himself too high, he'll be easier to replace. Can you think if the Ravens or Giants could get 95% of their QBs for half (or less), they wouldn't dump those contracts or not have given them out in the first place?

And yes, it does give the team more cap space but it gets to the other part of Brady loving football. He wants to win. Not just play, he wants to always be the best and make it to the superbowl. His salary/cap hit is more about what he wants rather than what the team wants. He's the best and certainly worth more but he has the luxury of not needing more financially and has higher priorities than money (which he can certainly make more of, if that's his choice).

Bobsyouruncle said:

How does that get published? I couldn't get away with that in middle school writing.

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It's his personal blog. He can say anything he wants.

ctpatsfan77 said:

It's his personal blog. He can say anything he wants.

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I'm on a roll here, I don't need your "facts".

It's clear, Brady plays for less so he can get free admission to the Super Bowl

Koma said:

Agreed. What about situations like Russel Wilson's? Seattle got 3 very successful years of good QB play out of him for about $750k per year. Was it cheating that they had about $19 million more than other teams to sign other players? Was it cheating that they didn't give Wilson $20 million after his first season?

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Stop making sense.

Serious question. Even if this guy were right about a side deal, what are the restrictions and limitations? At what point does it violate NFL bylaws?

hovis said:

Serious question. Even if this guy were right about a side deal, what are the restrictions and limitations? At what point does it violate NFL bylaws?

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It would be illegal for some sort of quid pro quo arrangement. I think what would have to happen is the league would have to investigate (insert gagging sounds here) whether or not an ex-player was given some sort of salary or compensation above and beyond what they should reasonably deserve.

For example, we all know for a fact the Broncos cheated on the salary cap during their Super Bowl years. Are they cheating by hiring John Elway as GM and paying him a couple million per year? Was this "arranged" for back in the late 90's? (And why isn't the so-called economist asking these questions instead of making all sorts of ridiculous assumptions regarding things which have not happened?)

XLIX said:

It would be illegal for some sort of quid pro quo arrangement. I think what would have to happen is the league would have to investigate (insert gagging sounds here) whether or not an ex-player was given some sort of salary or compensation above and beyond what they should reasonably deserve.

For example, we all know for a fact the Broncos cheated on the salary cap during their Super Bowl years. Are they cheating by hiring John Elway as GM and paying him a couple million per year? Was this "arranged" for back in the late 90's? (And why isn't the so-called economist asking these questions instead of making all sorts of ridiculous assumptions regarding things which have not happened?)

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Unfounded allegations aside, I'm curious as to where the line is drawn. For instance, can a QB and owner "invest" in a joint business venture, unrelated to football, that is basically structured as a legal "shell" company used to provide additional compensation? What restrictions are in place, and where does the line get drawn? How does the union come into play?

I ask, because if there is enough wiggle room to do that and comply with all "laws" (including NFL bylaws), why not? It's like John Edwards exploiting s-corp loopholes in the 80's: you can't blame him for it akd pretty soon everyone will start doing it.

the height of hypocrisy....Jet fans, the collective definition of an EPA illegal toxic waste dumping ground questioning the "legality" of a Patriot contract that is part of THEIR own collective bargaining agreement. One cannot just create stupid THIS stupid...it HAS to be primordial.

hehehe

Brady owns those fools

you would think these putrid vermin jets fans would be used to it by now

james87654 said:

hehehe

Brady owns those fools

you would think these putrid vermin jets fans would be used to it by now

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People's brains can acclimate to certain situations, even if it may not make sense or they would have objected to it (themselves) if able to detach their own self from the equation and look at it in a neutral light.

I can prove it, I'm still married.

hovis said:

Unfounded allegations aside, I'm curious as to where the line is drawn. For instance, can a QB and owner "invest" in a joint business venture, unrelated to football, that is basically structured as a legal "shell" company used to provide additional compensation? What restrictions are in place, and where does the line get drawn? How does the union come into play?

I ask, because if there is enough wiggle room to do that and comply with all "laws" (including NFL bylaws), why not? It's like John Edwards exploiting s-corp loopholes in the 80's: you can't blame him for it akd pretty soon everyone will start doing it.

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Exactly. What's preventing Kraft from investing in TB12 and paying for expanding the storefronts across the country? (Post Brady playing)

Maybe Brady got a sweetheart deal on his lease at Patriot Place. So many questions!!...lol.