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I see no problem carrying a 5th WR as one of our 23 players on offense.
QB 2
RB 4
WR 5
TE 3
OL 9
 
Our Offense has been very good this year, but getting LaFell back will only make it better!!!! Good bye Dobson, you had plenty of chances, and couldn't contribute, good luck to you and Welcome back Lafell!!!!
 
You're totally clueless about so many things that go into evaluating players beyond what you've gleaned from websites. You have no farking clue as to whether or not he could have handled the coaching from the Pats. You have no idea whether or not he could have handled the Pats play-book, which is infinitely more complex than the San Diego play-book.

Just because Allen was a much better college player than Dobson doesn't mean everything. Allen had injury red flags that Dobson didn't.

BTW, Wayne's speed was fine. He asked for his release because he couldn't handle the play-book and the time that was needed to be put in.

Galloway wasn't slow when he was with the Patriots. That's more ignorant BS on your part..

Do yourself a favor and just stop so no one else has to be subjected to this ridiculousness..

Face Facts. No one here knows whether or not Allen could have been successful with the Patriots. Maybe he could have been or maybe he'd flamed out like others such as Jackson, Tate, Price, etc.. Pointing to SDs simplistic offense and touting how well Allen is doing as proof of how well he'd do here is the most ignorant thing a person could do.

You claimed the shopworn versions of Galloway Wayne and Johnson were as good as the current prime version of Keenan Allen, who is on pace for a 125 catch 1700 yard season. You think Galloway Wayne Johnson had enough left in the tank to produce a season like that? No way. In fact when we got them, they were so far past there prime they were not wanted by any NFL team and none produced any type of production after we released them


You say we released Wayne because he couldn't understand the playbook? Film shows we released Wayne because he couldn't get separation anymore


Bottom Line A prime Keenan Allen is way better than any of those 3 men at those stages of there careers
 
Our Offense has been very good this year, but getting LaFell back will only make it better!!!! Good bye Dobson, you had plenty of chances, and couldn't contribute, good luck to you and Welcome back Lafell!!!!

Yep one of the biggest draft busts in the past 5 years...disappointing. I love lafell though. Pm
 
Didn't this Dobson-Allen debate take place a few weeks ago? Clearly Allen is better, but it's not really productive to torture ourselves over what could've been. Hey, it made more sense than Tate over Wallace or Price over....anyone. Dobson is on his way out soon. Our WR situation with Jules, Jojo, Dola, & Keshawn reminds me a lot of Branch, Givens, Brown, and Patten. Great, versatile group. Combine them with the greatest TE of all time and you really can't complain.
 
Keenan Allen would have killed it in this system. Why people feel the need to try to downplay that is beyond me. I was high on Dobson when he was drafted too but even I can admit that he's been a failure thus far and Allen has turned out to be a stud. We know he's football smart and his route running is exceptionally polished. Of course he would have fit in here. I guarantee you #12 would have loved to have him.

How do you know that Allen would have succeeded in this system? What proof do you have that he could have handled the coaching of the Patriots staff? What proof do you have that he could have handled the play-book? Football smart? What proof do you have of that? What proof do you have that he just doesn't run the routes that are called and that Rivers finds him?

The answer is none. It is pure speculation.

People seem to forget that Patriot receivers are expected to make the same reads at the line as Brady and expected to make the same decisions as Brady. Yet no one can offer proof that Allen could do this.. Why people feel the need to think their speculation somehow equals proof is beyond me..
 
You claimed the shopworn versions of Galloway Wayne and Johnson were as good as the current prime version of Keenan Allen, who is on pace for a 125 catch 1700 yard season. You think Galloway Wayne Johnson had enough left in the tank to produce a season like that? No way. In fact when we got them, they were so far past there prime they were not wanted by any NFL team and none produced any type of production after we released them

You say we released Wayne because he couldn't understand the playbook? Film shows we released Wayne because he couldn't get separation anymore\

Bottom Line A prime Keenan Allen is way better than any of those 3 men at those stages of there careers

Wayne asked for his released and the 2 pre-season games showed that Wayne can and did get separation. Clearly you don't actually watch the games.

I'm done with you since you can't be bothered to provide facts..
 
How do you know that Allen would have succeeded in this system? What proof do you have that he could have handled the coaching of the Patriots staff? What proof do you have that he could have handled the play-book? Football smart? What proof do you have of that? What proof do you have that he just doesn't run the routes that are called and that Rivers finds him?

The answer is none. It is pure speculation.

People seem to forget that Patriot receivers are expected to make the same reads at the line as Brady and expected to make the same decisions as Brady. Yet no one can offer proof that Allen could do this.. Why people feel the need to think their speculation somehow equals proof is beyond me..

You still think a 37 year old Reggie Wayne is as good as a prime Keenan Allen?
 
Wayne asked for his released and the 2 pre-season games showed that Wayne can and did get separation. Clearly you don't actually watch the games.

I'm done with you since you can't be bothered to provide facts..


I haven't missed a game since 1995 when we traveled to Atlanta and lost 30-17 with zolak starting. The Falcons ended up finishing 9-7 and making the playoffs that year. That 95 team had a brutal schedule. Road games against KC and SF...ouch
 
You still think a 37 year old Reggie Wayne is as good as a prime Keenan Allen?

When it comes to being able to handle a play-book? Which is what I was inferring..

BTW, Since you still don't believe that Wayne was released because he ASKED to be released...

Reggie Wayne granted release from Patriots - NFL.com
The former Indianapolis Colts star asked for and was granted his release Saturday

Reggie Wayne out in New England, WR asked Patriots to release him - CBSSports.com

WR asked Patriots to release him


Reggie Wayne asks for release from New England Patriots
Wayne asked for his release from the team and the Patriots granted it,

Reggie Wayne asks for release from Patriots, retirement expected



So, everyone but you knows that Wayne is gone because he asked for his release, but, yeah, the Patriots cut him because he couldn't get separation..

Facts are clearly something you have issues with..
 
I haven't missed a game since 1995 when we traveled to Atlanta and lost 30-17 with zolak starting. The Falcons ended up finishing 9-7 and making the playoffs that year. That 95 team had a brutal schedule. Road games against KC and SF...ouch

And none of it means you actually know anything about football..
 
How do you know that Allen would have succeeded in this system? What proof do you have that he could have handled the coaching of the Patriots staff? What proof do you have that he could have handled the play-book? Football smart? What proof do you have of that? What proof do you have that he just doesn't run the routes that are called and that Rivers finds him?

The answer is none. It is pure speculation.

People seem to forget that Patriot receivers are expected to make the same reads at the line as Brady and expected to make the same decisions as Brady. Yet no one can offer proof that Allen could do this.. Why people feel the need to think their speculation somehow equals proof is beyond me..


Let's also not forget the Allen almost quit football because he had a tough time during Chargers training camp.

What if Allen was drafted and quit because Pats training camp was tough and then Dobson was drafted by someone else and played solid.

All these same people would be saying BB was dumb to draft Allen over Dobson.
 
Let's also not forget the Allen almost quit football because he had a tough time during Chargers training camp.

What if Allen was drafted and quit because Pats training camp was tough and then Dobson was drafted by someone else and played solid.

All these same people would be saying BB was dumb to draft Allen over Dobson.

People always want to ignore those tiny little facts because it puts a huge hole in their argument..
 
Let's also not forget the Allen almost quit football because he had a tough time during Chargers training camp.
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That's the one thing that stumps me about Allen. I wonder if Belichick and the Pats scouts had a hint of that type of attitude during the pre-draft process.
 
How did we ever think Dobson would be a better fit for our system than Allen?

Could it have been Allen's history of serious knee and ankle injuries, failed Combine drug test, and reports of major attitude problems?

As I recall it, the real hand-wringing back on draft day was about the Pats passing on Cordarrelle Patterson in round 1 and trading down for some guy named Collins -- another linebacker!! -- instead. (Fun fact: Aaron Dobson has recorded more catches per game than Cordarrelle Patterson.)
 
I thought this was a Lafell thread. :confused:
Great to have his presence back in the red zone and give Brady a reliable outside option. Barring injury this is a very versatile unit.
 
Why are people acting like LaFell is back.. Until it's announced officially, he's not.. I just wish it would happen..
 
Huge Fan of Lafell. I know our offense is great, but him back allows gronk to get 1 on 1 coverage, which makes our O unstoppable
 
30 other teams passed on Allen at least twice as well. It happens. We aren't going to draft every superstar.
 
Let's also not forget the Allen almost quit football because he had a tough time during Chargers training camp.

What if Allen was drafted and quit because Pats training camp was tough and then Dobson was drafted by someone else and played solid.

All these same people would be saying BB was dumb to draft Allen over Dobson.

Agreed. While it's understandable to look back at what could have been at the WR position draft wise, there's absolutely no way to know who would work out here and who wouldn't.

It's impossible to try and project due to the complexity of the system and what is asked of our WRs. Other teams tend to do things differently as well, so we must remember that hindsight is 20/20 in these situations.
 
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